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05-24-2011, 06:57 AM
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Let's see if I can sum it up, starting with definitions.
Atheism = Belief that god does not exist.
Lack of belief that any gods exist.

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Question #1: Is there a name for claiming to know definitively that god does not exist?
Gnostic atheism, strong atheism, 7.0 on the Dawkins Scale.

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Question #2: If I understand correctly, you get frustrated by people defining Agnosticism as believing that god might or might not exist. Is that correct?
I get frustrated by people describing themselves as agnostics to feel superior to atheists and agnostics who haven't bothered learning what either really are beyond their caricature. And contempt (on this topic) for those so muddled that they have no idea what their own thoughts are even after considering them for some time. Rare, but I've met them.

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Question #3: Why is that a problem?
It's not until this is revealed deep into a discussion (the only place it ever will be) and I find that I've been talking/arguing with someone who can't read his/her own thoughts and never had a position to argue from to begin with, despite entering the conversation claiming that they did.

I'm irritated by those people now, but it becomes a problem for me once we get into that situation.
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