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Well to be fair I won't be continuing this argument, I think BM's scientific intelligence outshines mine to the point were I'm really digging for answers, it comes down to this though, religion requires faith, some people are lacking or were never fortunate enough to be brought up into a religious family. This argument was never going to change either of our ideas on how the Universe came about and such but nevertheless, it was an interesting debate. Well done BM I suppose.
Perhaps we need a debate thread?
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I agree, us trying to goe against bullet magnets scientific knoledge is like trying to take down an armourd personel carrier with a sword and shield.