I see then, if you're talking about those unfortunate situations, then yes, they should be stood up against. I disagree with all of those things, but I seem to be the minority within my religion for most of those. But this branch of the argument started with WoF quoting you about people slaughtering others because of religion, thats why I thought you were focused on the extremists doing that, not your, unfortunately for the most part, everyday religious persons.
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