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10-28-2009, 08:20 AM
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Seikyo Jack
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So just because you're not performing a mass animal genocide it makes it okay to just kill one? Just because you mutter a short 'With all due respect' before you pull the trigger it suddenly makes it different? I'm sorry but that's major bullshit.

You're using all the parts? So instead of going to the store and buy your meat there you insist on killing just one more animal for the heck of it. Yes we need to kill to live, that's why we have slaughterhouses in the first place. We don't need jackasses like you who think they can do a better job by going out hunting their own meat and wasting half of it. I don't care if you reuse every single part, it doesn't make it right. Following that logic I could shoot you in the face and as long as I sell your flesh at some WWII style butcher shop and use your bones for my Halloween decoration next year, I am totally justified in killing you because I did it with respect, right? Heck, killing humans would probably be more okay then killing animals, we're in the billions, what's the population of deer these days?

Don't try to act as if hunting innocent animals is doing something good for the planet. I have not a single ounce of respect for hunters who think they are 'all that' because they are able to carry a powerful gun into a forest. I'd like to see you try and kill a deer with your bare hands, make it a fair fight as long as you insist on hunting your own meat. I put 200 dollars on the deer.
Very aggressive, I dunno what's your problem matey but you can't possibly make everyone believe you're more right than any others, I simply gave my opinion. You don't like it? then you don't have to believe, but don't start calling me names.

I'm not saying hunting is good for the animal population just because I can carry a gun in the forest, I'm saying it because it's true. Predators aren't the only danger herbivores have to face, they can be dangerous to themselves, by depleting their food ressources. And they wouldn't notice they made their food become scarce. You obviously never hunted in your life so you think each time I went hunting, I had a big grin in my face, wishing a painful death to the deer in front of me. Well, for your information, that wasn't the case, I stayed stoic, aimed and gave it a quick death (it was a about 25 feet from me when it fell, he suffered for....5 seconds....). I think that's the best respect you can give to your prey: killing it in the less painful way as possible.

And I think hunting following the rules is some kind of respect, since you're basically killing only one or two a year. Wanna know what's worse than hunters? Poachers. why? Not only the kill animals, but they do it commercially, out of the laws of hunting. So yeah, I do think I have more respect for the animals even though I killed a deer. And the fun was not in the killing but in seeing it in its natural habitat with my own two eyes, something hunter-haters will never see (they'll see deers in a zoo or in Pennsylvania, but not in the forest).

I also buy meat in the grocery store, not like I got each week to get a few deers to have enough food for the week, I may be in Canada, doesn't mean in live in a shack in the woods. At the times I went hunting, I went for the fun of seeing animals in the wilderness, I didn't give a damn wether I killed one or not. If I got one, well, great, more food to stay healthy , if not, well at least I saw one.

And if I tried to go bare-handed, well, now I'm the one having no chance. Why don't you try it yourself if you think it's so fair? Anyway, hunting is a bit about strategy. you find a good spot, put some bait, and get a high position. you can hunt on the ground, too, it just requires more stealth (I've done that once).

I do get it that if you miss your shot, you might injure the animal, without killing it. that's what training is for, I never went hunting without practicing for a few days. I don't use traps, either, because I don't know shit about traps and like it has been said, it's just more painful for the prey. And I still think we're helping nature...a bit. I wouldn't mind be called a jackass if in every hunt I killed females and predators (the females could have babies waiting somewhere, who would die without her and predators are there to regulate the population), but I hunted only for bucks and now I'e stopped hunting althogetter but it still annoys me to see people calling hunters "assassins" and "heartless killers". Get a grip, hunting is not about quenching my taste for blood, it's about having some contact with nature and sometimes, coming back with more food is about the only motivation for that. It's just not the same as only buying packs of steak in the grocery, but hunter-haters will never understand that.


I'd simply say that if you eat meat there's two things you can do: Either leave the hunters alone or stop eating meat. Because if hunters are assassins, slaughterhouses employees are torturers. Maybe not all slaughterhouses are inhumane but still, the animals have the time to see what's gonna cause their death (even though they might not realise what those machines are), whereas the animals in the wild don't realise anything unless the bullet pierce their lungs. at least they are not anticipating their end, they don't get scared by whatever is in front of them and looks dangerous.

I hope this won't become a flamewar. If you hate hunters, Havoc, good for you, but don't start insulting anyone who thinks hunting is okay just because you think only your opinion is right.
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