[Munch's Master]

Uh, that wasn't what I was getting at josh. I was not correlating "ghettos" to crime at all. I was speaking purely on a social interactive level, not on a criminological level, when it came to the ghettos.

Plenty of crime in Manchester and Liverpool and they dont have any "ghettos" as far as I know.

I'm trying to think of a nicer word than ghetto too. "Ethnocentric region"? That would apply to white-heavy areas too, such as Liverpool and its chav culture, which is again an awkward case.