Alcar; Have you been playing around with theme options? Suddenly I've got a few extra in the list that I didn't have yesterday.
I've never had the vBulletin 3 or Mac the Janitor themes before.
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I was not demeaning him. I was just surprised that people use honeybee.
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And your comment of 'Native FTW' does not in any way mean that Native theme is significantly better than Honeybee?