So Havoc, you're saying a two year old would think you're tall, but you could be a mijget?
Well, that's because confusing, complicated, tall etc are all points of view.
So if the universe is complicated to us, it's complicated to us.
If the universe isn't complicated to some alien speacies then maybe they're looking at it the right way.
The universe wouldn't be complicated to God, becuase he created it, but it's still complicated for you, and therefore, according to you, it's still complicated.
Also, that's not what I meant, untilll we can find a way to create a non human life, from ground up, or even a way it would happen, we cannot say there is no God.
How was life created if we were supposed to be inside a tiny ball of mass, and by the way, who created that tiny ball of mass, and who made it explode all of the sudden if for enterity before that it hadn't, and how was life amougnst a bunch of rocks. And in conclusion, if we can't figure out how to create life from nothing, that means no cloning or anything from that such, I guess creating life from non living materials would be enough, we can't say there is a God, or something out there that created us all.
Anyway, God living forever untill creating the earth makes a whole much more sence that a ball sitting around in the middle of nothing, which technically may not even be space, and one day decidng to blow up masively, unless you believe in the big crunch theory, and it's a massive cycle, and then, why can't we find materials before the last big crunch, and what/ who created all of this, and started this cycle anyway?
Hmm, maybe we should stop asking these big questions and get on with our lives.
Or maybe I should stop answering them, or attempting anyway.
And Bullet Magnet, if Jesus came knocking on your door would you beleave in him? (Probably not becuase there were a few skeptics at your time), but say, you were on one side of an ocean, and God came down and parted the oceans for you, technically there's no maths involved, so would you beleave in God?
Basically, proof comes in MANY forms, there's already proof of God, and currently to my knowlledge none against him, BUT because a mathimatical statement is blunt and obvious, and hard to get around, becuase of it's simplicity, then if you presented one proving or disproving God, there would be very little room for skeptics.
And there is proof, but people can still be skeptics of it.
But Mathitcal proof can be wrong, we can be mistaken, we can misunderstand maths (there could be a missing factor that we are forgetting) and therefore it is not completly solid proof, and there still is room for skepticism.
But give up, becuase a scientist is not going to waltz up your street with a mathimatical equasion proving God, becuase God isn't a mathimatical equasion, he isn't an amount, etc.
But there is kind of proof, alot of natural things follow the fibinachii system, a mathimatical patern, almost proof that there is a designer of our world becuase of it appearing in such a varity of things such as acorns, follows and honey combs.
But that leaves us asking why.
And some people asking why not.
and the world moves on.
Oh, one last thing, yes, that's exactly what they do, that and sit in dark rooms playing computer games all day (Well the scientists I know at least, with the exception of my stereotypical mad ex scientific proffessor type teach.