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09-20-2007, 04:50 PM
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People coming home from war and getting on with their lives?

He was cooperating towards the end. The Coalition didn't even give the weapon's inspectors time to analyse the 1000+ page documents Saddam published explaining what had happened to his weapons programs. Scuds and gases don't count as Saddam didn't deny he had them.

And thanks for providing me with a bug guffaw of laughter over the Super Gun - aside from the fact that the thing was never near completed, mentioning 10-year old technology (and I'll include the scuds and gases in that) is irrelevant to what was claimed as an ongoing weapons buildup.
Women's rights is a debatable inclusion in that list but it's not hard to find people willing to argue that, while women are better off than they were 50 years ago, there's still plenty more to go, e.g. actual equal wages rather than just equal minimum wage, maternity rights, the number of female CEOs, etc. As for Human Rights, you'd have to be blind not to recognise the retraction of Habeus Corpus, the other goings on at Guantanamo, not to mention the CIA rendition programs as a breach of human rights.
Huh?
Well, the UN admitted Saddam had WMDs; http://www.alphapatriot.com/home/arc...am_had_wmd.php
The New York Times said he had WMD capabilities;
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...ities&only=yes
And several anti war groups said so;
http://againstcommies009.blogspot.co...idence-of.html

NOTE: These sources source from 3rd party sources, most of which are left wing, like the New York Times or BBC. So you can call the conduit biased, but not the source. You can yelll "selective!", but you can't deny the evidence IS there.

As for women's rights, the "equal wage" thing is both irrelevant (as you are confusing equality of opportunity with equality of results) and debunked; http://www.iwf.org/issues/issues_det...?ArticleID=515 http://mensnewsdaily.com/blog/2005/0...y-myth-men.htm
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba392/
http://bittersweet.ondragonswing.com..._gap_myth.html
http://ywcaboulder.org/get_involved/the_wage_gap.htm

Women can vote at the same age as men. They can have sex at the same age as men. They can run for the same offices as men. They can become CEOs. They can become doctors. They can become car mechanics. They can wear pants and show their midriffs.

I doubt that the CEOs running the corporations that supposedly discriminate against women truly hate women for their gender. I think it's just that they are part of an industry centered around bureaucracy and hard labour, both of which women often find irritating (much like men would normally find the cosmetics, fashion and childrearing industry irritating). Women have an enormous dominance in the education industry and social worker industry, and the most prominent Democrat candidate for president is a woman.

In Saudi Arabia, women are forced by the Islamic barbarians to wear burkhas or chadors. They are not afforded equal respect, equal rights, equal humanity both according to the government and Islam.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/4/index.htm#34
I've provided it completely in context. Note the loving Islamic treatment of women?

As for the "Bewsh is rewning da cawnstitewshun and the CEEYIIAA is gunna take us away", well, I think we need to apply Jesus' phrase of looking at the beam in your own eye in reverse. Stop staring all day at the few splinters in the West's eye and focus on the forest in the non-Western one. Otherwise, we'd have people like you going (thanks to Jacob) "The Dresden bombing was immoral and illegal! We must seek understanding (TM) and Dialogue (TM)! There isn't an us or them! Naziism is an ideology of peace (TM) hijacked by a tiny minority (TM) of extremists!"
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