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Patrick, you are stubbornly avoiding evey post made against you.
The scientific definition of life backs up Pat's claim that fetuses are alive, but he has yet to prove they are self-aware or thinking beings.
Thus, fetuses are simply something alive. They are not human, nor are they capable of being an identity yet.
And so, this tells me that killing fetuses is not stricly speaking 'human murder', as they are neither human nor any kind of live organism. They are simply 'a fetus'.
What you fail to grasp, Patrick, is that fetuses are not human yet.
And don't give the bullshit excuse, 'Oh, so since it's not human that gives you a good cover for killing it?'
Everyone kills something at least once everyday, be it the pig slaughtered for that ham sandwhich you ate for lunch, or the bugs that got crushed accidently while someone in Peru or Columbia was crushing coffee beans for your coffee this morning.
Things die, and you cause it. Get over it.
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You are indeed making shit up by inventing a seperate category of biologically human things. A fetus IS BIOLOGICALLY HUMAN, THUS IT IS A HUMAN! Get that into your skull, I'm sorry, but please, try and get that into your skull.