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07-02-2006, 03:33 AM
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Basically true, except that there weren't Jordanians back then either. Basically, the concept of Jordan/Palestine/Saudi Arabia/Iran/Iraq/Syria/Lebanon/etc is an artificial construct established by the British and French after they conquered what was then the Ottoman Empire in WWI.

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I don't see this amazing tie to the land that Israelis have. "God" told them to take the "promised land" so they committed genocide to get a hold of it. They lost control of it and haven't had it for a century. Now they want it back because of the Holocaust and b.s. claims to divine promises and holiness? If you were Palestinian would you roll over for this crap? Hell no. Sorry Zionists, karma is a bitch.
Erm. Genocide is a strong word to use here; conquering of land was quite common at the time (approx 1300BC). There have been Jews in the region constantly since then - the population has been significant since people started moving there from Europe in the 1860's.

Even before the holocaust Jews have been trying to establish a self-governing nation in Israel. There were discussions with the Ottomans to take control of what was then a backwater of the empire. When the British conquered the region, they made promises to both the local Jews and Arabs that they could have the land. Eventually the British washed their hands of it and let the UN decide. They established the Partition Plan where two countries would be established; a Jewish one and an Arab one. The Arab countries (Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq) didn't approve and they invaded Israel. Miraculously, Israel managed to defend itself and established itself as a democracy. The regions that were set aside for the Palestinian state was taken by Jordan and Egypt.

The Palestinian 'problem' is one that was created by Jordan and Egypt, not Israel.
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