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One more edit: We are arguing two different things here. You constantly stick to the idea of being popular and selling records and having followers and touring 20 years after your last album came out. While I constantly talk about intelligence and honesty in music. Music that makes you understand your own flaws instead of screaming about the flaws of people you don't agree with. Maybe we should agree to disagree because we obviously have different ideas about what makes music good.
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Exactly why I like Joni Mitchell.
OTC ftw btw.