[Jacob]

"Gah! I was reluctant to even engage in this thread such is your consistent idiocy."

Ugh, can't you act just a tiny bit mature and not resort to pathetic insults. Okay, you disagree with me, but so far you've given the typical Hippy argument of "Oh, we can't do that...'cos they're people too!" and not once given an alternative.

"America has the death penalty and yet people still commit murder, etc."

I've explained my theory on that and also refered to Dubai, which has a low crime rate mainly due to how it deals with criminals. America's a crap example anyway, it's c*ntf*cked in royal proportion.

Can we just begin to way up the pros and cons, too, going on the basis that this could actually happen (i know it probably won't, due to Human Rights (GRRRR-ARRRG)). 'cos so far i don't see any major cons and nobody has brought any up, all hiding behind the same argument that has led to the steady corroding of the country.

"It’s basic human nature"

Before i respond i want to clear something up - are you saying that once people have done crimes and been punished for them, they feel bad afterwards?

You're quite a good debater, just stop being such a c*ntmunch and try and put your point across without the insults, they're getting tedious.

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