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As I've said previously, I've known religious gay people who don't see any conflict, mainly because when you look into it (especially from the original hebrew text) the bible isn't as black and white as most people imply.
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Can ya gimme one example, please? |
Well, if you'd bothered to read the website that Mojoman220 had linked to on page 3 you'd know what I'm talking about. It seems to have disappeared so I'll give you this one as a replacement:
http://www.libchrist.com/other/homos...leviticus.html.
In any case, I will ask what is mean by "a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman" - the sheer physics of it are impossible. I can tell you the gay sex is absolutely nothing like straight sex, so that verse is vague in the least.
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God help us all. You really are a fool if you believe any of that. Religion does not reject any of those things. Just look at what was said elsewhere about different perspectives on creation and six days, where the days may not have been literal 24-hour periods but rather six 'ages' of the world. Science has never proven that there is no life after death, simply because there is no way of disproving the metaphysical. And, what's more, religion never said that homosexuality is not genetic.
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24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
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I fail to see how any of this has to do with homosexuality being genetic. If anything, I see it as further proof that homosexuality is God-given and uncontrollable.
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All it says (depending on your interpretation) is that if you shouldn't have same-sex sex, whether you are gay or not. As for the whole gay=bad thing; I agree with you completely that that is a terrible thing. But you can't blame religion for that. For every complaint you have you should only blame people. They're the ones who find it convenient to degrade minorities and take religion as a weapon to prove whatever they want.
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I'm the "minority" in tis group. I believe that there is a God and I believe in his opinion. I'm not saying that those who have other opinions than me ought to be maltreated, degraded or despised. You've got your opinion/s, but say that those who can't share it, are stupid and intolerant and ought to become maltreated. Which one of us is intolerant? |
Seriously, DS, you really need to look at who I'm posting to and notice that in none of these posts was I actually criticising you. In fact, I was directing those comments to those plebes who insist that religion is evil and corrupt without knowing the first thing about it.
So, next time you want to write a post in this or any other forum: do these simple things:
- READ EVERY POST IN THE THREAD
- Try to understand them (this is an important one)
- Read everything else you can on the topic
- Consider your audience when you're writing your post - none of the things you've written here would convince a thoughtful Christian, let alone an atheist.
- And most importantly of all: get off your high horse
Quite frankly, I'm sick of having to defend religion on this forum when people like you go and reinforce all the stereotypes of small-mindedness and intolerance that people like Havoc, Sekto Springs and other have.