[Havoc]

I can't realy see the use in having a frog with electrodes in it's head, except when it will escape and leave a trail of disaster (:P). Neither can I see the use in stitching a monkey's eyes shut or anything (jeez, now we know where Lorne got his inspiration from XD).
However, animal testing has multiple levels. Like I said earlier in this threat, testing medications on animals is fine with me. Testing shampoo and cosmetics though is downright stupid.

But in the end I guess it comes down to: They either test it on humans or animals. And even if people volunteered for testing, then that would 'not be ethical' and we'd get this endless loop.

PETA, ALF and all these other extremist animal movements are no better then terrorist groups. ALF is the worst of them all, having a grand total of millions of dollars of damage on their name.
And PETA is simply a bunch of mental f*cktards thinking they know what they are doing while they don't know anything about the animals they are trying to save. Someone should bomb these peoples HQ's...
Bush should use that army of his (or whats left of it) in a good way...