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07-20-2005, 01:46 PM
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The problem with the holocaust deniers is that both sides, the believers and the deniers, both say to each other that they're omitting substantial fact, forensic evidence, etc. and the fact of the matter is, either one could be bullshitting. It would not be uncharacteristic for people who take exception to holocaust denial to outright discredit their beliefs. But at the end of the day, that's all they are, beliefs. It's just a bunch of people making public statements in the hope that everyone will believe them.

Personally my main complaint with Holocaust deniers is that while the people who attempt to forcefully debunk them give them a stronger case, the majority of them are facist anti-Jew nazi supporters. This gives them all considerably less credibility as the unbiased "revisionists" that they claim to be. Deliberately twisting and misrepresenting evidence to conform to their ideological viewpoint in response to the lack of any solid uncontrivertable evidence in lieu of making admissions to the frailty of their case is one last nail in the coffin for me.

Unless someone can show me something that demonstrates beyond any doubt that six million jews was an exaggeration or a fact, then I'm inclined to disbelieve both the deniers and the believers. Niether make a very strong case, and niether use anywhere near enough unbiased sources.

Above and beyond all this, frankly I'm annoyed that a war that happened such a long time ago is still affecting my world. I still have to put up with all this crap and the word "Jew" has become a sort of buzz word that you have to be careful with otherwise people might think you're a nazi. Really, my outlook on it is this; what's done is done, and we're several generations removed from the people who committed this atrocity, so lets stop getting today's generations involved with it, because they had nothing to do with it. The perpatrators are all long dead, the veterans mostly near dead. So it's not worth arguing about. Working out which person is to blame is pointless because whoever you hold accountable, they're all dead now anyway.
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