[Jacob]

'There was no threat of WMDs'

I agree. But i believe the UN did say something about Saddam Hussein getting the means to make them, as soon as he possibly could. And though i couldn't give two f*cks about the war, i'm sure people would much rather have Saddam usurped from power now, whilst he's fo-f*cked and powerless, than going after him when he can actually fight back.

'You don't send an army to arrest one person. If he was such a big threat to the world then he could've been assassinated by a sniper during the first gulf war.'

Oh, i totally agree. The whole WMD thing was the actual reason we went to war in the first place, but still? So what? Saddam Hussein was heading for a Karmic kicking anyway, what with f*cking his sons mental states up by putting people in Woodchippers infront of them and making them watch etc.

'What the **** do you really know about the peace in Iraq prior to Saddam's capture? For someone who has niether been to Iraq or claims to disbelieve everything he hears in the media, this is a very telling statement.'

Not a lot. But going on the basis that the Media is telling the truth when it comes to those images of all the Iraqi's "Yaying" around when Saddam had gone, i assume they were quite pleased he had been usurped.

'The death of soldiers and civillians as a result of the war isn't justified at all, because NOBODY has a right to kill someone else merely to satisfy their own means.'

I'm assuming you're talking about the Americana-Oil thing. In which case i agree. Going into Iraq solely for Oil is shitty.

'It's insane to suggest that people should suffer and die to maintain your idea of a utopian world where everything is perfect... it's borderline nazi.'

Yes, some of my views are Hitler-esque, but when put in to context, they're the best way forward. And though my beliefs are that we need disease to keep our numbers down, i will play Devils advocate and champion the whole experimenting on people to get rid of disease. Who really wants a child that's going to have half of it's life in hospital? Who will always be stared at in the street? Who will die young? Who really wants a loved one to go through the turmoil of Cancer? Nobody. And it's all very well using animals for experimentation, but once you perfect something with an animal, you then have to perfect it for a human, meaning the first batch of people to go through the new medicine are like Guinea Pigs anyway. Why not just experiment on people to begin with? I'm sure nobody would mind if random Paedophiles/Child Molesters/Rapists/Serial killers were rounded up and used for such means. And i'm sure quite a few disabled people would happily volunteer for experimentation in the hopes of stopping others from suffering from their disease.

'Do you think that, as an innocent Iraqi is falling toward the ground having been shot by a bullet, he is actually celebrating that in the future life will be "better" for Iraqis?'

No, but there are always casualties in war. Are you saying that if worst came to worst and there was another full scale War with our country and some other random country, you'd go out protesting because you wouldn't want to kill any Soldiers/see any innocents get harmed?

'The war in Iraq isn't even over.'

I never said it was. Infact, i chose my words carefully. But give it a couple of decades and i'm sure there will be peace and stability.

'They're still being blown up by suicide bombers, who are the only REAL Iraqis who feel that their death will improve the world.'

Elaborate, please.

'You loathe the fact that "people go on and on about the war"?'

Yes, especially when they bring it up during the Elections. It has no place during the Elections. We should be concentrating on our country, not what Mr. Blair was led to believe thanks to false information fed to him (probably by Mr. Bush, but that's my little '24'-esque conspiracy theory).