[SeaRex]

Allow me to repeat an earlier announcement I made. So long as I am a moderator of this forum, there shall be absolutely NO "owned/pwned" posts. Period. They aren't funny. Ever. In fact, there was NEVER a point or situation in which they were funny. There are very few things that I go "all-out Nazi mod" on, and this is one of them. Cut the shit.

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As for the topic at hand, remember that there are some major culture differences between the US and UK. This includes social sects. I don't know anything about Goths in the UK (or any British social sect for that matter), but goths in the US are generally just angsty high school kids. I mean, I hate to stereotype, but most of the "goths" over here are like that. And yes, often times "goths" in the US will actually claim to be, and label themselves as, "goths."

Generally, rejected children will try the hardest to fit into an "alternative" group while keeping scorn for other groups. Of course, what they generally don't realize is that they are conforming to a "non-conformity," effectively defeating the purpose of becoming whatever the hell they decided to become in the first place. In the US, much more than other countries, stress is placed on individualism. Everyone is "unique," and if you're in an "alternative" click, you're somehow more unique than everyone else. Now you've got superiority complexes and a bunch of other superfluous bull shit. The point being, you can NEVER say that you're more unique than members of other groups when, in the end, you're really just an honorary member of another everyday group.

And don't think that I'm saying this with hubris, either. Trust me, I've been there.

Of course, you can't really blame a teen for trying to "belong" to something. It's really just part of growing up. Search for identity and all that sentimental shit. However, when adults stay in a phase they should have grown out of years back, that's when the problems occur.

(Everything in the above post refers to US "goths." I've already stated that I don't know shit about social sects in the UK. For the love of god, no one start harping on that.)