[Codek]

I agree with jacob on the rats and pigeons if you shoot them itll make it worse.Diseases are bad but how diseased is a dead animal lying in our streets and houses?And I completely despise hunting.I had saw a hunting programme where they hunted for a leapord.They couldnt find it find it so they killed a deer and left it lying there.eventually the sick bastards got bored of waiting and chopped up the deer.We are animals too codek.We are the dominant species here on earth but doesnt that mean we overpopulate?I see the point in killing old animals for meat and such but killing something and never even giving it a chance in life just plain wrong.Killing is not the only solution.we are overpopulating the earth but do we go about shooting eachother??no we dont.we die in time and that keeps it balanced.animals do the same so I dont see what the problem is.right now in scotland seagulls are overpopulating but we have a reason to kill some of them.They are attacking animals and humans so we need to stop them overpopulating.My point is theres no need for killing just for sport

In what way does shooting the animal make it worse? That doesn't make any fucking sense. Surely it causes more problems while it's alive than if it's buried or incinerated. That's why they classed the animals as "Vermin".

Yeah so what if you saw a programme on TV where some guys hunted a leopard? I'm not "hunting" anything dipshit, I just kill small pests around the house, in my front and back yard, and at my friends farm. I'm not killing a fucking leopard for god's sakes.

We are animals too, yeah, but we are at the top of the food chain. We eat tons of other animals. It's no different to ancient sheep farmers killing lions that stalk their livestock. We as humans have always manipulated and controlled nature. Better get used to it, rather than bitch and moan and be a big pussy. Animals kill other animals all the fucking time, just for entering their territory, or even so they can get laid. The point is, when we do it, every single PETA and vegetarian fucker comes knocking on our door demanding pages and pages of reasons and excuses.

And we do not kill "old animals" for meat. We kill them in the prime of their lives sheerly to selfishly sustain ourselves. We do the same to innocent plants and vegetation. Get fucking over it and grow up.

I'm amazed and very annoyed that you people are all too quick to say "killing is not the only way" but once confronted with the question "well how else should we solve the problem?" you either suggest that we "capture and relocate the animal" or you don't have a damn clue. Capturing and relocating is fine if you have hundreds of thousands of pounds to waste on enforcing the initiative, but I think you'll find the majority of the planet earth will disagree with you in favour of just killing the thing before it causes anyone else any grief.

We all kill flys. I personally do not beleive anyone who tells me they have never compromised a fly. They are a pest, but as far as you are concerned, they have every right to just buzz around your house, lay eggs on things and cause infestations of vile bacteria and maggots, which in turn lead to more flys, more bacteria, and more maggots.

"we are overpopulating the earth but do we go about shooting eachother??"

Yes, we do. All the damn time. Perhaps you haven't noticed but we have these big expensive things called "wars" in which two countries kill each other until one side gives up and surrenders, or worse, is overthrown. We also have murderers, and school shootings, and soaring numbers of other guncrimes...

The population does a very good job of controlling itself. Although we despise the way that controlling happens. So to say that really does prove your ignorance.

"I dont see what the problem is"

That's part of your problem right there. You probably have no idea just how much pest control is going on around the UK. The fact that an animal will eventually die does not keep the numbers down. One rat makes several new rats, each of those making even more rats and so on. The same with gulls, squirrels, mice, etc. If left unchecked, it quickly gets out of hand, as some areas have discovered.

These animals have it too easy. Whenever they want food they can just pick it up out of a garbage can or sack. Rummage through litter bins or pick up scraps from the ground. And most shockingly of all, they will even steal from people.

You can't just nonchalantly pretend that it isn't a problem because it is. You just refuse to awknowledge that it's there, because that would mean conceding that pest control by means of extermination is a justified excersize.

Perhaps you should grow up a little and really think about what you beleive in and how much sense it makes.