[oddguy]

Originally posted by Jacob
Ok, on the relationship with God thing. You may think you have a relationship with God, like i think i have a relationship with both God and Lucifer. If i am on my own and have not got my mobile phone with me, i will speak to them. If i am wanting something and can't be bothered to do some hocus pocus i will ask both God and Lucifer to aid me...that way, if God doesn't want to help me because my reasons are too selfish, Lucifer will. Now, all of the above was due to my family making me believe in God. I now do it out of habit, rather than believing in one true being. But i know that if there was a God he would want us to live our lives to the fullest extent, rather than pussy-footing around.

It says in the scriptures that you cannot serve both God and Satan. Man cannot have two masters is what it says. Anyway God does want us to live at the fullest....that is, fullest extent of righteousness.

Do you see what you just did there? You stated that you, yourself, know that certain things are fact due to faith. Ok, thats all very well. But you've only read the Bible. Whereas they have read every religious book revolving around Christianity there is...deciphered it...and came up with a conclusion. How do you know they're not religious? Just because they're Demonologists doesn't mean they don't go to Church. The texts are not based on theories either, but based on evidence found in the scriptures...

I've given you evidence before, but it seems you just mock it or find some way of weasling around, so I don't bother anymore.

You have faith that you get your info from God...but in reality you could easily be led astray. Such as that man in America who killed the woman who worked at an abortion clinic...

What a troubled man. The sad thing is, he thinks he did a good thing. If he would've looked in the scriptures, he would know that murder is a sin and that God is the guy who performs His judgement...not us. I know this. I'm not astray.

Just because i don't follow Gods rules doesn't mean i cannot see when somebody isn't being a true Christian. A true Christian will do what the Bible says, no matter what. You can easily live your life as the Bible says exactly...you don't though, and why? Because you would rather pamper yourself with the joys of random things, ranging from nice clothes, nice foods and other luxuries.

Again...you aren't Christain...you don't know. Anyway, God doesn't mind if we have nice stuff. When God says not to worship idols or things made by your own hands, He is talking about those that place their weath and possessions first before God. I place God first in my life, so I can have nice stuff. In the Bible, God says not to burry your talent. My talent is to write, so if I make some cash off a book, I'm not going to be punished because God told me to expand the talents He has given me. Do you see the loopholes you are making in your accusations? I'm not upset...you just don't know what you're talking about!

Please do not go on about factual evidence if you're not going to produce any. Just because the other evidence you brought up was ripped apart by logic and sense...

It was only 'ripped apart' by you. If God Himself visited you, you'd find some way to say it's not true because you are pridefull in yourself and unwilling to accept anything.

'5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?'

Let God deal with that in His own way. Working on the Sabbath is disrespectful to God, but your friend can repent.

'10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn.t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev.20:14)'

The crop thing, and the garment thing have passed. This was the old law. The new law came forth when Jesus was atoned. Those don't apply to today. To repent, you used to have sacrafice animals, but now we can repent through the atoning sacrafice of Jesus Christ. We are now in the new law.

I wasn't on about Satanists. I was talking about Buddists and other such religions. Does this mean they're going to Hell? How would you feel if you died and found out YOUR religion was not the proper one...and thus you were going to be punished for something you had no choice over...?

Like I said, God judges by the heart. Not by what religion you come from.

No...listen...the Bible is going to be modified...and when it is, does this mean you're going to change your beliefs? It's been modified in the past...meaning that somebody, other than God, has changed it.

I have the origianl King James Version of the Bible. The closest thing I can get to the original thing. I don't believe in any other unnesiscary modifications.

The Bible has countless translation errors in it...

I know, but I also read the book of Mormon. The book of Mormon was given to Joseph Smith by God and transalated through revelation. It's the most correct book on the Earth. It coincides with the Bible and even furthers a few things. Joseph also was able to make a true translation of the Bible, so I have it without error.

No. When Lucifer approached Eve he first came down as an Angel. Making her believe he was good...he could be doing the exact same thing to you...

How do you know that? Do you and Satan hang out!

But thats going against the 10 Commandments...so that means they're going straight to Hell...

Anyway, regardless of the above, if God will forgive you if you sin so long as you have him in your Hearts whats the big deal with sinning? Back in the day it didn't matter if you had him in your Hearts...you had to abide by the rules the Apostles set. Now, thats seemingly changed, meaning a murderer could rape and kill a thousand babies and if he has God in his Heart he will go to Heaven...and if that can happen then why have sins at all? Why not just teach about God instead of saying "Well...if you do this its a sin and you will go to Hell...but if you have God in your Heart you can do it...and still get into Heaven." kind of a big loop hole in the afterlife case isn't there really?

I didn't say that. You just asume everything you say. You can have God in your heart, but without repentance you're in trouble. A murderer of 1000 people can't just repent and go back to his evil ways of murdering and expect to go to heaven. There are no loopholes with God. You make up loopholes that do not exist.

Let's just quit this annoying debate. It's getting nowhere and we just keep going in circles.

-oddguy