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09-20-2003, 12:34 AM
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I have my beliefs, you have yours. I do not think yours are wrong, just a bit ignorant. You are more than welcomed to feel the same about me.
I'm glad you understand my right to believe what I want. I also understand that you have a right to think what you do. You just put up some points about sin earlier that were twisted in their presentation to make Christians look like fools. Satan does the exact same thing.....mixing lies with truth and twisting it about to seem like the right thing. You're in the right church.


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You may think that, but like i have said countless times, DI's religion has him living life to the full and loving it. Not feeling guilty or scared...not wanting forgiveness...but feeling fulfilled.
His religion, in my opinion by the way, lets him do whatever bloody thing he wants without accepting consequences. God doesn't want to punish anyone. You guys make it sound like God is this angry guy. He just wants His children to return to Him and be like Him. God cannot live among unrighteousness.


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Your religion seems to have you constantly in fear. Be prideful...beg for forgiveness. Be nasty...beg for mercy. Have a nasty thought...GOOD GOD GET THE SIN CLEANSED FROM YOU IMMEDIATLY!!
I'm not perfect. I know this and so does God. At least I am trying as hard as I can to be like Him and respect His commandments. God recognizes that I'm doing my best, and I am blessed for that. I'm not in fear of God. When it says to fear God in the scriptures, in Hebrew "fear" is interprated as "respect". I do not fear God....I just respect Him. I also am not miserable and in constant worry. I'm happy!


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Oh, and Oddguy it seemed as if you were making allowances for quite alot of those sins. I.E - "Oh, no, its not a sin if i do this. No, if i do it this way its quite exceptable...yes...not that...people who do it that way are going to burn." im sure if God wanted to create a loophole he would have clearly stated it, as in "This is a sin. But, if you do it this way...its not...so thats ok." but he didn't, did he?
The points DI brought forward about those sins were false. If a family needs moolah to support their family, that is not a sin! It is sin when you lust after money and that is all you care about. If you guys read the Bible, you would know that what you guys are doing is the same things the Pharasies did back in the day. The Pharasies believed that since you couldn't work on the Sabbath day, that meant you could not walk past a certain amount of steps. The Pharasies actually had people count their steps on Sunday, and if they ran out of steps, they had to sit until Monday came. Jesus spoke against that when he healed a blind man on the Sabbath. Are you guys going to be like the Pharasies and say that was wrong? This same thing applies to what you guys are saying about sin. What I said was right....what you guys said was twisted. I know this stuff....you guys don't.

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Also, you Christian types are wasting your lives horrificly. Why base your entire life on the THEORY and HOPE and FAITHFULNESS that Heaven exists. Why not live life to the full? You have God in your Hearts so im sure he'll forgive you...so, why be all "No, can't do this...no, no...thats wrong!!" cos its silly. When we die we just go onto a new plane of life...no Heaven...no Hell...just a new existance. So, people like me and DI will be ripping the piss out of you lot in the next life, cos not only have we had one amazing life...but we'll be having a second amazing life too...whilst you lot will be boiling in fury realising you were actually wrong.
We'll see who is right in the end.

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By the by, i can't believe we're having another discussion on this again...
Me too. I hate it when you guys challenge my belief system. It's not like I'm going to go, "Hmmmm. I think DI and Jacob are right. I think I'll deny all those nifty miracles and blessings God has sent me."

I actually want us to be friends. I don't like this constant debate. It hurts my feelings to see what you guys think about God. I love God with all my heart, and no matter what you guys say, you
can't take that away from me.

-oddguy
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