[Danny]

frankly, i see no reason for this argument. if either side would actually listen to what has been said here, you would both see that there is no real argument here, neither side has really said much contradicting the other...

i have to say, although i disagree with a lot that Glukkon-whatever has said, a lot of it also makes sense, and i respect him/her for being prepared to speak out like that when he/she in obviously in the minority. he/she had some well-thought-out arguments, and i thought the comment about the parts of the faces being sewn up was very funny, actually.

i have a kind of neutral position here, since i am not mad keen on OW really [i mainly come to the forums for the people here] and i can see that [no names mentioned and no offense intended] a few of you do seem to be refusing to listen to what Glukkon-etc is saying. i know that you pro-OW people COULD come up with some convincing and devastating arguments if you thought about it, but most of what i have seen amounts to a gut reaction to criticism of OW.

what is so shocking about the idea that Lorne *shock horror* is trying to make money, anyway? i mean, he's a businessman! of course he's going to put profit first! i am not saying that that is a nice thing to do, but i think we can hardly expect better, really...

oh, and Pilot, i appreciate that you know Lorne better than the rest of us, i am just looking at the arguments that have been put forward and coming to an opinion here.

way to make an entrance, Glukkon...

[please don't flame me for this, i am attempting to mediate]