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08-05-2003, 01:23 PM
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But even if gays are born attracted to men, that doesn't make them any hornier or less able to abstain from sex.
True. So, if a Gay Priest was going to be ordained to Bishop or whatever and he was celebate...he should be allowed to because he is celebate. Right? (I'm not sure if Gene thingy is without a partner, but i'm talking about the one in England who was ordained. He was without a partner and celebate and there was a mass uproar about him being promoted. It was all the Christian Gays Vs the Christian Straights).

Anyway, i don't see why we should abstain. If we were allowed to get married would it be ok then? I've heard that its not the act of Homosexuality that Christians disagree with, but the fact they're not married thats the problem.

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If you don't believe in choice, please tell me why you continue living? After all, if you can't decide how to live your life, what is the purpose of living it?
Just because i don't decide who i am attracted to, doesn't mean my life will be totally void of choice.

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If homosexuality is accepted why don't we accept paedophiles, murderers, drug users, etc... After all none of them have a choice according to you.
Because Paeds, murders, drug users etc are all harming themselves or others. Homosexuals are just prancing along in their own little world trying to get by without being harassed in some shape, way or form. Whereas the other people hurt others and should thus be locked away until they can be "cured".

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Marriage between two men or two women is meaningless. A woman is already a woman a man already a man. They do not complete each other, so what is the point of a big expensice legal ceremony?
Marriage is about two Souls coming together as one, regardless of the exterior (gender) the two Souls are the same as everybody elses and if marriage helps these Souls to meld together then we should be allowed to do just this. Our love shouldn't be allowed to go unshown.

And on the expensive ceremony thing, who said it has to be expensive? It could be a small gathering.

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Also if they believe they are doing something right, does it really matter what the world thinks?
I believe in most cases they just want to feel as if they have the same rights as other, heterosexual couples. They may also want people to know how much they love one another, much like the reason why hetro's get married.

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We all have different ideas about morality. I know someone who has a very hard life. He isn't gay (as far as I know) but his biological mother is and he has had some hard things to deal with because of it. His lesbian mother isn't harming herself or her partner, but because of her choice her kids no longer have a married father and mother and are not very socially adjusted.
That we do, but when it comes to the important issues we know whats what. We know that its wrong to commit an act of cold-blooded murder. We know that its wrong to harm a child. We know that its right to help somebody. And we know its right to be civil to each other. The rest are all blurred. My family think all Prostitutes are scum and should be thrown in jail. Whereas i believe that the Prostitutes on Drugs should be thrown in jail, yet the ones doing it to support their family are amazing individuals. I, with my family, agree that murder is ok if its justified (killing someone for harming you/your child/a close friend etc). Others disagree with this.

On the whole having a homosexual parent thing, did he have a hard time because he, personally, disagreed with it? Or because society itself disagreed with it? In the wrong society a person can be beaten into a coma just because their father, brother, mother etc is a homosexual. In the right society, homosexual parents are treated like everybody else and treated correctly and respectfully. Their children are not picked on, not harassed, but treat normally. However, to find a society like this is very hard. You're always going to find some random person who disagrees with some random thing wherever you go.
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