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paramiteabe 03-12-2004 01:12 AM

A sad day yesturday!
 
I am surprise nobody has taken the time and reflect on what happened yesturday in Madrid Spain.

Anyway it looks like Terrorism is at it again. This time blowing up trains at a Depot in Madrid. At most 198 to 200 people were killed and 1,400 people were injured.

When does the carnage end? This indeed is linked Al Cida and another group called ETA which officials say. I have had it with people saying us Americans are not justified to go to war with these Terrorist. Because as far as I am concerned those people are the enamy! And for those whome praise them and call them a genus shame on you mann and you better hide because the US had it! The line is drawn your eather good or your evil.

Esus 03-12-2004 04:21 AM

192 were dead before I left school this morning, many more were in intensive care in hospital, I've just got back and I havn't heard anything new yet.
Personally, I believe it to be Al Quieda (sp??), name due to the fact that 13 bombs exploded simulataneously and had all the clues to an organised, carefully planned, and synchronised attack. ETA are not the most organised and proffessional of groups.

Sorry, but I just can't take your threats seriously. Perhaps its the bad spelling, but they're laughable. Not that I support terrorism or surprise attacks against civilians...

Mac the Janitor 03-12-2004 04:22 AM

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And for those whome praise them and call them a genus shame on you mann and you better hide because the US had it! The line is drawn your eather good or your evil.

Who praises them?

And the US had what?

Jacob 03-12-2004 04:53 AM

PA seems to think acknowledging their intelligence in performing their terrorist schemes is praising them...if that is so then fine, i'm praising them. Because i, for one, believe they are clever. That doesn't mean i agree with what they're doing.

'When does the carnage end?'

It won't end. And because of the US', alledged, treatment of the Camp X-ray prisoners it is going to get worse.

- Having a woman smear her menstrual blood over the face of a detainee.
- Making them urinate/defacate in public and not giving them any modesty.
- Bringing in Prostitutes to shame the Muslims.
- Torture.
- Humiliation.

Now, some of these accusations i don't believe, but if they are true then i think America has got some explaining to do. Although i don't think that the detainee's who have been found innocent should be allowed to sue/take court action. They should have an apology of the US.

Hobo 03-12-2004 04:56 AM

Jacob and Esus, I couldn't agree with you anymore.

And terrorist arn't evil from their point of view some of them believe that they're doing this to help them obtain freedom, or for religious reasons.

Sekto Springs 03-12-2004 05:01 AM

WHO CARES, MAN?!

Nothing bad happened in my miserable country so i'm just gonna kick back and worry about my own problems. I mean, who cares what happens in other countries when your favourite show is on?

paramiteabe 03-12-2004 05:12 AM

I am sorry.

Mojo 03-12-2004 05:25 AM

Personally, I think the members of AQ should be castrated, and then fed their own balls. Next, they should be thrown in a pit filled with sharp, rusty and pointy objects.

No, seriously, I think they should be eradicated. I mean, last time it was the Two Towers, quite a distance away from here (Holland), but this scares me, it's too close... No offense to any Americans around.

Sekto Springs 03-12-2004 06:45 AM

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No offense to any Americans around.

None taken, I hate America even though I live there.

Esus 03-12-2004 07:17 AM

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WHO CARES, MAN?!

Nothing bad happened in my miserable country so i'm just gonna kick back and worry about my own problems. I mean, who cares what happens in other countries when your favourite show is on?
Thats rather in-sensitive after all the sympathy we gave america after 9/11...

Jacob 03-12-2004 08:18 AM

I'm more excited over the whole "Ooohh, who's going to be next!? And whats going to happen!?"

Hobo 03-12-2004 08:29 AM

Yeah, AQ said that the US is next (again) on their strike list 'parently

TheRaisin 03-12-2004 08:33 AM

Blech. I think this whole thing just bites ass. I don't think any side is justified. I mean, PA, don't apologize for stating your opinion, you're entitled to it, but I don't think good and evil mean anything anymore. The human race in general has lost so much of their humanity, they can no longer distinguish between right and wrong. That's why terrible things happen all the time, and will continue to happen, at least until someone or something drastic comes along to institute change. As my favorite manga artist puts it, "It's a failure of conscience" that causes things like 9-11 and war and terrorism. I couldn't agree with that more.

Sekto Springs 03-12-2004 09:00 AM

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Thats rather in-sensitive after all the sympathy we gave america after 9/11...

I rest my case....WHO CARES!?

I live in America and we don't need sympathy! All we need is to kick that dumbass Bush out of office and stop making everyone hate us with our pointless rambling of past events that noone cares about anymore! I hope the terrorists blow Bush out of the water and turn him into a human-swiss cheese with their itchy trigger-fingered antics!

Esus 03-12-2004 09:06 AM

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I don't think any side is justified.
Well, I'd say that the people who are trying to defend the innocent civilians from mass suprise murders are the justified ones. But thats just my opinion.

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I rest my case....WHO CARES!?
How about those people in intensive care? Or those people who didn;t get picked up by their parents after schools because they had been massacred? They're the ones that care.

Sekto Springs 03-12-2004 09:23 AM

Oh boo hoo. Unless you're one of those people I don't care again!

Fez 03-12-2004 09:35 AM

i just found out about this today, its a shame. The ETA admitted it wasnt them though.

what proof did they have is was Al-Quieda?

Statikk HDM 03-12-2004 09:44 AM

Color me insensitive because I really have a hard time working up sympathy. I'm supposed to blubber like a little bitch over 13 bombs? Colombian terrorists have killed over 163 civilians with 1 American bomb. These guys are total amateurs. I mean, come on, Iraqi rebels are killing Coalition forces at a pretty alarming rate with nothing but primitive guerilla tactives and shitty grenade launchers. This isn't even close to rivaling the 2 single biggest terrorist bomb slaughters in history:Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Also, America has plenty on its plate as it is what with the infringment of constitutional rights, Haiti, Iraq and the oyflaybin. I'm a little conflicted here, however. I do think that this is a horrible tragedy but it isn't even close to being front page news. I also think that this is a great little diversionary tactic for the Bush administration. A little hand wringing and violent vengeful rhetoric and the public is once again focussing on a side issue. I'll care about these deaths when Bush actually gives a shit about slaughtered AMERICAN civilians.

Sekto Springs 03-12-2004 11:06 AM

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Color me insensitive because I really have a hard time working up sympathy. I'm supposed to blubber like a little bitch over 13 bombs? Colombian terrorists have killed over 163 civilians with 1 American bomb. These guys are total amateurs. I mean, come on, Iraqi rebels are killing Coalition forces at a pretty alarming rate with nothing but primitive guerilla tactives and shitty grenade launchers. This isn't even close to rivaling the 2 single biggest terrorist bomb slaughters in history:Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Also, America has plenty on its plate as it is what with the infringment of constitutional rights, Haiti, Iraq and the oyflaybin. I'm a little conflicted here, however. I do think that this is a horrible tragedy but it isn't even close to being front page news. I also think that this is a great little diversionary tactic for the Bush administration. A little hand wringing and violent vengeful rhetoric and the public is once again focussing on a side issue. I'll care about these deaths when Bush actually gives a shit about slaughtered AMERICAN civilians.

Totally agree!

I mean, all you people are whining about this shit and acting like it's a big deal when things that are 10 times as bad have already happened. When another Great Depression starts then you can whine all you want, but until then you should all just shutup!

Jacob 03-12-2004 11:07 AM

To be honest, the whole 9/11 incident was spectacular and whenever i get the chance i watch the home video things that recorded the incidents. I agree it was tragic, but just watching the planes fly into the towers is an amazing sight. What i would find interesting is if the ETA came out and condemned this and said that they would try and find out who did it through asking all their underworld contacts, 'cos that'd kind of rock.

So far though all attacks have been away from England, what with America, Bali, other places and Madrid. I'm just waiting for the whole gassing of the London underground thing to happen.

But still, i'm intrigued by how they will perform their next act of terrorism.

Statikk HDM 03-12-2004 11:19 AM

Why in Hell would Al Quaeda give a rat's ass about Madrid? This makes no sense. And just because an attack is coordinated or devastating that doesn't mean a Muslim terrorism group is behind it. Even though ETA is denying it and didn't do a trademark warning this is precisely the type of attack that they have been carrying out for years. Not one damn thing leads me to think that it was any Muslim group.

Esus 03-12-2004 11:27 AM

ooh, gassing of London underground - now that would make an interesting change to the news headlines for a few weeks. Nevertheless, I'm still gonna hope they just leave England alone.

Jacob 03-12-2004 11:32 AM

Well, apparently, Spain supported something AQ didn't like.

Besides, why would ETA deny it? Why would they let AQ take all the credit? That doesn't make sense either.

Statikk HDM 03-12-2004 12:24 PM

Last I heard AQ isn't taking "credit," they're having it foisted on them by a bunch of yuppie assholes who piss themselves whenever they see an Arab male. When some big cheese in AQ starts bragging about it i'll believe it. And why wouldn't you deny the attack. Its a great way to give the 'ol ultraviolence mindscrew to the elite and it has all the law enforcement people hunting after Islamofascist boogie men instead of messing with you. If I ran a terror organization I'd NEVER brag or give warnings! Why make it easier for law enforcement?

Jacob 03-12-2004 01:00 PM

'law enforcement people hunting after Islamofascist boogie men instead of messing with you.'

They didn't give a crap about what they where going to do before, why start now?

'Why make it easier for law enforcement?'

But giving cryptic warnings before hand and saying "We're going to bomb something today...guess what?" makes it harder for law enforcement, because they're running around aimlessly trying to find out random things connected with the warning.

paramiteabe 03-12-2004 01:50 PM

Because they found tapes in Arabic in a van just a little ways from the attacks. Thats why AQ is suspected in this. It doesn't matter what terrorist group they belong to we will still get them. The free countrys are going to be attacked one by one. We were first and the rest of the free world will follow. And they will get whats coming to them because the United States will see to it. And I wasn't apologizing by the way I was saying I was sorry you feel that way. Because what I see is nothing more than ignorance.

Alcar 03-13-2004 01:12 AM

My sympathy goes out to the families of those injured and deceased.

I agree, that the next biggest question is "who's next?".

Alcar...

Jacob 03-13-2004 03:09 AM

'We were first and the rest of the free world will follow.'

Yeh, but everybody hates your country. Your country brags about being about freedom only to mix Religion with Politics and ultimatly take that away.

Anyway, whoever the terrorist peeps where, they were immensly thooper. They used mobile phones to trigger the explosives. Well done them.

Esus 03-13-2004 03:16 AM

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we will still get them. The free countrys are going to be attacked one by one. We were first and the rest of the free world will follow.
Oh, puh-leaze. That statement is incredibly ridiculous. You seem very ignorant of facts, and way too confident in your countries abilities to "get them".... and, The "free" world?... jeez...

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And they will get whats coming to them because the United States will see to it.
Your statements remind me of a propaganda filled teenager...

Fez 03-13-2004 03:42 AM

well, they must have quite abit of tech if they set of the explosives from mobiles. Possibly even the Pheonix Connexion?

i was trying to think of all the terrorist groups i can think of, this is what i got:

KKK
ETA
AQ
Phoenix Connexion
Cambodians
Jamacan voodoo guys
Arctic Avengers (Swedish, but more of a pest then a T group)

anyothers?