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Sl'askia 01-03-2002 08:45 PM

Slig noses
 
I have been thinking (yes dangerous pastime I know), thinking about the biology of sligs (well really my Drakkic race...but since I made them related to sligs I figured sligs would have something similar) specifically the location of their noses and sense of smell.
First the location of the nostrils themselves. I think, they are located on either side of the middle face tentacle, almost in-between the middle tentacle and the ones on either side. Not only that...but I think they have a total of four nostrils (hey..its Oddworld), two on the top and two on the bottom (those two are of course, hidden by the tentacles and can't be normally seen.
Why four? While both sets serve as oxygen intakes(or what ever Oddworld residences breathe), the bottom set (the ones underneath the tentacles), serve as the main 'sniffers' (both me and Teal believe sligs have a keen sense of smell). The top set would have 'some' smell receptors, but most of them the bottom set possess. Now not only does the bottom set have the smelling receptors, but the first inch or two of the bottom of the tentacles, starting at the base.
Why the extra 'patches' of receptors? It increase the chance of catching scents (I am no biologist BTW...this is just my...uh...'reasoning') and therefore hints of possible danger.
Now since industrial sligs have to wear masks (because the gluks make them wear them...as far as I know) and the masks cover the part of the slig's face where the nostrils would be (along with the extra patches of receptors along the bottom of the tentacles), their smelling ability is virtually neutralized, making them unable to really 'smell' anything (including that mudokon hiding in the shadows right in front of them). How the heck to they breathe? Well...someone in other topic mentioned that the 'wiring' connected to the mask may be breathing tubes of sorts, but the 'tubes' only carry air to the top set of nostrils...so sligs still can't smell anything....

This is just a theory...what do you think of it?

Monkey-Man2000 01-03-2002 09:05 PM

Hey that's pretty good. Cool theory. :cool:

toxicity 01-03-2002 09:42 PM

yeah!

toxicity 01-03-2002 09:44 PM

Sorry this is just a test. :flames:

toxicity 01-03-2002 09:45 PM

My computer is not working right!!! :mad:

duhreetoh 01-03-2002 09:52 PM

maybe sligs just... dont have nostrils.

The Magog On The March 01-04-2002 03:42 AM

yeah, like the aliens from alien. Oh wait, those guys didn't have eyes.. oh well. And why does toxicity keep posting 3 messages in a row..

One, Two, Middlesboogie 01-04-2002 06:56 AM

Well; it's strange, but certainly plausible; I quite like it. I'd always assumed they had nostrils near the top of their head, like Brachiosauruses.

Phen 01-04-2002 12:18 PM

I think the nose is just before the tenticles

Disgruntled Intern 01-04-2002 01:13 PM

well, i don't think you can rule out the possibility of sligs having noses...Especially since in AE an flying slig flew past/over abe, and said 'SOMETHIN' SMELLS!'
i like your theory Dragadon, very well thought out!
Toxicity, use the edit button, your spamming is getting VERY annoying

Danny 01-04-2002 04:08 PM

About the breathing thing: Is it not possible that sligs simply breathe through their mouths? In fact, why can't they have separate organs for breathing and smelling anyway?

[ January 04, 2002: Message edited by: Rettick ]

•[cyrus]• 01-04-2002 05:44 PM

I think they breath through their Mask tubes.... If not , why do they have them?

Mudokon101...

Sl'askia 01-04-2002 08:08 PM

Well I had said in another topic some time ago that the wiring could be carrying signals from the brain to the pants.
The reason I said both sets serve as breathing openings is because the scent molecules need a means to reach the receptors deep within the nose. Mammals and birds do this by breathing. Reptiles like snakes and lizards use their tongues. Sharks by swimming (and sharks don't use their noses for 'breathing').
Sense sligs are not aquatic, they can't use the shark method, there are no forked tongues that I can see (but then...the mask could be preventing the use of it as well, so thats is another possiblity). So I think they use the mammal method, by breathing.

[ January 04, 2002: Message edited by: Dragadon ]

Danny 01-04-2002 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by Dragadon:
Well I had said in another topic some time ago that the wiring could be carrying signals from the brain to the pants.(1)
The reason I said both sets serve as breathing openings is because the scent molecules need a means to reach the receptors deep within the nose. Mammals and birds do this by breathing. Reptiles like snakes and lizards use their tongues. Sharks by swimming (and sharks don't use their noses for 'breathing').
Sense sligs are not aquatic,(2) they can't use the shark method, there are no forked tongues that I can see (but then...the mask could be preventing the use of it as well, so thats is another possiblity).(3) So I think they use the mammal method, by breathing.

1. I personally think that the pants are wired up to the spinal cord in the tail. Nobody knows though, really...

2. How do you know? Try and remember to distinguish between things OWI have said/done and things that you have made up. After all, it was just you and Teal who decided that Sligs were Arboreal...

3. Sorry, I didn't catch this bit - What makes you think that their olfactory organs are restricted by the masks?

I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I'm just playing the Devil's Advocate...

abe22 01-05-2002 05:26 AM

What about this theory maybe they actually breath through their tenticals (like some reptiles breath through their skin) Well anything possible it's just a suggestion.

Sl'askia 01-05-2002 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Rettick:
1. I personally think that the pants are wired up to the spinal cord in the tail. Nobody knows though, really...

2. How do you know? Try and remember to distinguish between things OWI have said/done and things that you have made up. After all, it was just you and Teal who decided that Sligs were Arboreal...

3. Sorry, I didn't catch this bit - What makes you think that their olfactory organs are restricted by the masks?

(4)I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I'm just playing the Devil's Advocate...
1. That is also a possiblity...but we may never know for sure.

2. As far as I know...OWI has never mentioned anything that could hint at where and how sligs lived before 'employment'. Besides...they look more likely to be tree dwellers then swimming types to me.

3. There wouldn't be saffishent(sp) air flow with the mask on for the scent particals to reach the scent receptors going by what I stated earlier that the main scent receptors are in the bottom set of nostrals.

4. Getting me to work on my theory eh? Tisk...

Disgruntled Intern 01-05-2002 02:12 PM

Abe22, just so you know, it's amphibians that breathe through their skin, not reptiles.
trust me on this one...

Danny 01-05-2002 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Dragadon:
3. There wouldn't be saffishent(sp) air flow with the mask on for the scent particals to reach the scent receptors going by what I stated earlier that the main scent receptors are in the bottom set of nostrals.
This doesn't answer my quesion. Since we don't know how they smell or where their olfactory organs are, this reason is based entirely on your theory, which itself is party based on the 'fact' that their sense of smell is impaired, and partly made up. What is it that makes you think that their sense of smell in impaired?

Sl'askia 01-05-2002 02:56 PM

Dan I was going completely by my belief that the slig's 'nose' is some where around the face tentacles. Beside...our sense of smell would be greatly reduced if our nose was covered up by something...even with a piece of tissue paper. So a leather mask (or what ever the slig's mask is made out of) would have the same effect.

abe22 01-05-2002 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by Disgruntled Intern:
Abe22, just so you know, it's amphibians that breathe through their skin, not reptiles.
trust me on this one...

When I got on here I did relise that and I was going to correct myself but you did it for me.

Disgruntled Intern 01-06-2002 03:17 AM

.....sure
oh well i was actually looking forward to givin' you a schoolin' about reptiles...i have been studying them for 9 years now..i know loads!
heh

abe22 01-06-2002 06:41 AM

Oh well I guess I stuffed up your plan and I did know that that's why I said I would correct myself.

Phen 01-06-2002 05:15 PM

the opening in the mask might be large enough for sligs to smell through

Xavier 01-06-2002 05:45 PM

I dunno if it's intresting... but
I saw a slig without mask

Phen 01-06-2002 06:27 PM

Do crawling sligs have masks?

Disgruntled Intern 01-06-2002 07:11 PM

xavier if you saw one without a mask, please post the pic...i don't think any one has?

abe22 01-06-2002 07:12 PM

Yes crawling sligs do wear masks and Xavier of course that's interesting do you have a picf it? If you do show us.

Xavier 01-07-2002 01:43 PM

It's only a sketch of a BigBro Slig without mask

He's very ugly...
I got it my PC, and I can't upload it

Mojo 01-07-2002 02:32 PM

Guys, I'm starting to irritate myself to all the posts about "i got a pic 'bout a slig queen, i got a pic of a slig without the mask".
Maybe you do have 'em, but if you can't show them, don't make a post about it ok? :mad:

Xavier 01-07-2002 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaScrab:
Guys, I'm starting to irritate myself to all the posts about "i got a pic 'bout a slig queen, i got a pic of a slig without the mask".
Maybe you do have 'em, but if you can't show them, don't make a post about it ok? :mad:


Hey, I really want to show it.

Who has the slig queen Pic?