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Varrok 12-21-2016 09:32 AM

Public transport (for real this time)
 


That is actually an interesting topic.

In Poland, the trains are often late, from 10-15 minutes (local lines), up to a few HOURS (intercity). Some of the trains look like total wrecks, and I'm surprised they even work, but over the years those have become a rarity. The new ones even have power outlets, so you can plug in your laptop or mp3 player.

Buses are mainly the same story, except with no power outlets (obviously), also the ticket machines inside them rarely work :(

How does public transport look in your country?

RoryF 12-21-2016 09:42 AM

in my area, I know the buses are pretty good and the trains i've been on have been on time

the buses are kinda pricey now, a few have free wifi but none have any outlets (only coaches do ofc)

Xorlidyr 12-21-2016 10:03 AM

In Germany it is really neat and all is working.

In Finland... is there public transport in Finland? Everyone drives cars.

Phoetux 12-21-2016 10:39 AM

In Italy it sucks sometimes. It's like in your country (Varrok) but the new ones are like 5 vehicles in one big city and that's it. Also they don't have power outlets, these things are like high and expansive technology.

Varrok 12-21-2016 11:42 AM

Do you buy the train tickets on the train? Some of our newer trains had bus-like ticket receivers that in no way fit the actual tickets we bought at the station

Phoetux 12-21-2016 12:34 PM

I don't know I never been on the new trains. The others still have the ticket collectors.

Xorlidyr 12-21-2016 01:38 PM

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Do you buy the train tickets on the train? Some of our newer trains had bus-like ticket receivers that in no way fit the actual tickets we bought at the station

That is very funny, actually. But also tragic.

Varrok 12-21-2016 01:45 PM

They removed them. After, like, half a year. Apparently trains in other countries work like buses. Well, not here.

SgabbitGabbiar 12-21-2016 02:16 PM

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In Italy it sucks sometimes. It's like in your country (Varrok) but the new ones are like 5 vehicles in one big city and that's it. Also they don't have power outlets, these things are like high and expansive technology.

This.

Same country, same situation :p

Nate 12-21-2016 08:52 PM

One thing I have learned is that everyone, everywhere complains about their local public transport. Then they go visit another city, talk about how wonderful it is to be somewhere that the public transport works (comparitively) well, and earn bewildered stares from the locals who think that theirs is as bad as it gets.

Varrok 12-21-2016 09:10 PM

Well that's true to me, since I moved to a bigger city. But the difference was significant.

Xavier 12-21-2016 10:18 PM

Our Public Transport works... when it's not on strike...

LittleLamb 12-22-2016 04:56 AM

what a fucking riveting topic.

yes, this will keep the forum going for many, many generations.

Varrok 12-22-2016 05:20 AM

Hey, we're trying!

Oddey 12-22-2016 01:55 PM

I, for one, actually think this is a reasonable topic.

In Denmark, there's two major transport players (that I'm aware of). DSB and Midttrafik. They work together pretty closely, in that it is possible to get a hybrid-card that works for busses as well as trains. More on that later.

Most regional busses look something like this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...%C3%85rhus.JPG
And then there's the intercity busses that look more like this:
http://b.bimg.dk/node-images/459/10/...dlgges---1.jpg
I rarely ride the intercity busses, since I live well outside the city, but they're a mixed bag from what I hear. In the city I study in, they supposedly run every five minutes, but it's closer to every ten minutes, with gaps ranging up to 20 minutes, I think.

I frequently take regional busses though. A typical bus is about 5 minutes late if it goes to the city, but if not, it's almost always on time. If you're riding them from the big city, it's a pain in the ass to get out of there, because there's constantly road work, stops every five minutes that every bus stops at at, even with an hour of bus riding to go through after exiting the city and general traffic.

The inside is pretty stock; shoddy seats with strange marks and bits of chewing gum on the back, hand-rails for anyone unlucky enough to get on after all the seats are taken, windows that are technically possible to open, but are usually bolted shut or just too stiff to move and seats for the handicapped at the front. But they do have wi-fi in what I think is roughly 80% of all regional busses now, so that makes up for a lot of it.

Paying for them is alright though, even if the price makes them a questionable choice (from what I've read, it's slightly more expensive than paying for the gas to get there in your own car). You can buy a one-time ticket, you used to be able to buy a ten-time ticket for a discount, you can get a card that connects to a special transport account so you are withdrawn based on when you check into a bus and when you checked out, or you can do like I did and get a bus-train card at a slight discount for students. Which leads us to, the trains.

DSB is the main go-to for trains in Denmark. From what my father and grandfather (who used to work for them) tell me, DSB used to be quite reliable and almost always on time. These days, it's kind of polarized. It's either right on time, or it's cancelled/extremely late for any number of reasons (my dad's favorite at the moment is "leaves on the track"). Normally, I take the train, what with power outlets, better seats, more room, better air, but at present, local authority in the city has decided they need a whole new railway system. It seems like a bit of a mess, since, to replace it, they've added additional busses and the city is already packed with busses and now with the roadwork that comes with making a new train-line it's a touch difficult to get around. But I digress.

Most trains I've ridden look like this:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2311/5...e13de3f1_b.jpg
Now, this image is a bit misleading, because the train looks rather shiny and new. It's only a few that look that way. Most of them have grafitti all over them, making it difficult, if not impossible sometimes to look out the window. Supposedly, DSB bought some trains from Italy a while back, but I don't think they received any of them. I never looked much into it, because DSB is the butt of too many jokes already. I think this is why they run quite a few trains that seem a little outdated.

I wouldn't say Danish public transport is all that bad. But trying to make sense of the route-plans, regardless of if you're taking the train or bus can be a bit overwhelming, because there are so many holidays in Denmark and each of them is treated quite differently, so there's no telling when what runs. It's been close to costing me some exams here and there and more than once I've had to cancel plans because I've gotten the bus-times wrong.

Phoetux 12-22-2016 02:11 PM

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This.

Same country, same situation :p

Oh shuts, another italian!
Buonsalve :D

Varrok 12-22-2016 02:14 PM

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I rarely ride the intercity busses, since I live well outside the city, but they're a mixed bag from what I hear. In the city I study in, they supposedly run every five minutes, but it's closer to every ten minutes, with gaps ranging up to 20 minutes, I think.

I'm living in a bigger city now, and I can say the most popular lines are like that here. On the other hand, in my home town (~70k population) they have it much worse, with buses running every half an hour (and they even might be late!), though a tiny bit cheaper.

This DBS train look like one of the best ones in Poland. The worst ones look like this piece of garbage:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...89_634x475.jpg

Phoetux 12-22-2016 02:34 PM

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https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2311/5807988306_69e13de3f1_b.jpg[/IMG]
Now, this image is a bit misleading, because the train looks rather shiny and new. It's only a few that look that way. Most of them have grafitti all over them, making it difficult, if not impossible sometimes to look out the window. Supposedly, DSB bought some trains from Italy a while back, but I don't think they received any of them.

Oh yeah our new trains are mostly like that
https://www.walksofitaly.com/blog/wp...tion-italy.jpg
I've been only once on one of these trains and it was cool but the ticket was really expansive for me.
the other trains are like this:
http://www.scanzorosciatem5stelle.it...eni-vecchi.jpg
But the most damaged ones are the freight trains:
http://media.polisblog.it/T/Tre/Trenomerci.jpg
It could be worse than this
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The worst ones look like this piece of garbage:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...89_634x475.jpg

That train looks okay to me, there's totally worse trust me.

Oddey 12-28-2016 12:09 PM

Alright, I think I can safely say that Danish trains are almost all in better shape than those. I think I'll ride them with even fewer complaints from now on. That is, when they set up those new tracks and get things rolling again.

Alf Shall Rise 01-10-2017 08:25 AM

I've heard a lot of horror stories about NJ Transit but I've never really experienced anything that bad. Some weirdos here and there, and a couple of annoying bus drivers. I'm probably just lucky though.

TheParamitePie 01-24-2017 12:53 PM

The public transport in Northern Ireland is pretty decent. I mean the vehicles are good at least. Trains are often delayed sometimes up to half an hour. Though the buses are usually on time and I've never had any problems travelling on them. I will attach a few pics.

STM 01-25-2017 12:34 AM

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The public transport in Northern Ireland is pretty decent. I mean the vehicles are good at least. Trains are often delayed sometimes up to half an hour. Though the buses are usually on time and I've never had any problems travelling on them. I will attach a few pics.

I thought the Luas in Dublin was fab, I'm glad they're expanding it because it's really simple to just hop on and off!

Vlam 01-25-2017 01:11 AM

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I thought the Luas in Dublin was fab, I'm glad they're expanding it because it's really simple to just hop on and off!

Dublin isn't in Northern Ireland.

TheParamitePie 01-25-2017 04:19 AM

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Dublin isn't in Northern Ireland.

Yea the transport in the south is completely different to what we have up here!

STM 01-25-2017 09:21 AM

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Dublin isn't in Northern Ireland.

Thank you for the geography lesson, Vlam.

Believe it or not I associated Norn Ireland with the Republic in my mind, which brought me to the Luas. ;)