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Nemin 03-18-2013 11:37 AM

A.L.I.V.E
 
Hello!
I have played Oddworld AO/AE and I frequently hearing ALIVE. I found this:
ALIVE is the engine running under Oddworld, but if I searched it on Google i found no suitable answer. Please explain what is ALIVE or just can i download it for testing purposes.
Thanks for reading this and for answers! :fuzgrin:
[SOLVED]

MeechMunchie 03-18-2013 11:49 AM

ALIVE stands for Aware Lifeforms In a Virtual Environment. This is the name Oddworld Inhabitants gave to their AI system.

Obviously the system is entirely built into the Oddworld games, but check out Paul's Level Editor if you'd like the opportunity to mess about with AO/AE NPCs.

Wil 03-18-2013 12:00 PM

A.L.I.V.E. stands for Aware Lifeforms in Virtual Entertainment.

Bullet Magnet 03-18-2013 12:02 PM

It's changed then. MeechMunchie used to be right, and I think the old one makes more sense.

MeechMunchie 03-18-2013 01:33 PM

Oddworld: It's virtually entertaining.

Wil 03-18-2013 05:01 PM

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It's changed then. MeechMunchie used to be right, and I think the old one makes more sense.

Nope. You should re-check your source. It was trademarked in 1997 and has always been that.

Bullet Magnet 03-18-2013 05:59 PM

I think it was a magazine. "Environment" makes more sense. We like virtual environments, and it's where aware AIs might exist. But virtual entertainment? Who wants virtual entertainment? I only pay for actual entertainment. I find virtual environments to be actually entertaining. Especially if they have aware lifeforms in them.

Wil 03-19-2013 02:03 AM

You know full well it's virtual in reference to it being entertainment on a computer, not virtual as in 'not quite entertainment'. Virtual lifeforms could exist outside of an virtual environment, sure, but do away with the entertainment and you're left with a clinical simulation at best.

Nemin 03-19-2013 04:58 AM

Many thanks for answers!
And i think this is [SOLVED] :)

Steamer_KING 03-19-2013 03:42 PM

Hooray, scrab cakes to everyone.

Xavier 03-22-2013 07:03 AM

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Nope. You should re-check your source. It was trademarked in 1997 and has always been that.

That's very odd, I had "Environment" in mind as well. Arg, because of you it's I'm going to have to dig trough some of my old stuff now in order to check this.

Manco 03-22-2013 02:01 PM

I'll save everyone the hassle.

Copyright page, Art of Oddworld Inhabitants:



It's actually Alive Lifeforms in Virtual Entertainment according to the book, so everyone is wrong!

Including me, I distinctly remember it being Aware Lifeforms in Virtual Environment just like everyone else.

Nepsotic 03-22-2013 02:06 PM

A.L.I.V.E - Alive Lifeforms? A.L.I.V.E Lifeforms. Alive.L.I.V.E

My brain hurts, it's like Inception.

Varrok 03-22-2013 02:16 PM

That's called a recursive acronym

Nepsotic 03-22-2013 02:23 PM

Can you please stop using big words, like "That's"?

Varrok 03-22-2013 02:43 PM

Recursive acronym.

Here you go, I removed made all hard words gone

Steamer_KING 03-22-2013 03:53 PM

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A.L.I.V.E - Alive Lifeforms? A.L.I.V.E Lifeforms. Alive.L.I.V.E

My brain hurts, it's like Inception.

Inception?

Wil 03-22-2013 05:12 PM

Hey look, a typo in the book.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?...07:jqup26.2.42

and

http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...keyfacts.shtml

and

http://www.oddworld.com/about/

Bullet Magnet 03-22-2013 07:27 PM

I'm definitely going to keep saying that it's environments. It's not being wrong, it's improving reality.

Paul 03-23-2013 05:05 AM

"Yet one thing that worked incredibly well was Aware Lifeforms in Virtual Environments system (ALIVE). This artificial intelligence routine cleverly controlled the actions of the creatures in the game according to the situation they were faced with and the type of character they were. It also meant Abe could decide to solve some puzzles and ignore others. The player could even trick Sligs into shooting each other. “ALIVE was really a philosophy about how we wanted characters in games to behave, and what we wanted gaming experiences to feel like,” says Lanning. “The achievements were largely in the creative solutions, while every step of the technology was an ongoing struggle.”

http://www.nowgamer.com/features/895...s_oddysee.html

so most places have it wrong :)

Edit:

http://www.trademarkia.com/alive-awa...-75375266.html

So it is actually Aware, not Alive :p

Bullet Magnet 03-24-2013 03:40 PM

Hey guys, have you heard of Nod's Oddysee?

Scrabaniac 03-24-2013 03:44 PM

I swear Nod was just fanfic..

Sidewinder Fang 03-24-2013 06:12 PM

Yeah, Nod's Oddysee never existed officially.

Phylum 03-24-2013 10:51 PM

Wil confirmed Nod's Oddyssey way back before he even worked for JAW.

Nate 03-25-2013 04:32 AM

Over the years Wil has both confirmed and defirmed Nod's Oddysee. I don't know what the fuck to believe any more.

MeechMunchie 03-25-2013 09:18 AM

I know what you shouldn't believe: Wil.

Bullet Magnet 03-25-2013 10:15 AM

Is it just me, or have we been hazing Wil much more since he became a part of the establishment?

Manco 03-25-2013 11:14 AM

Well duh, he’s the Man now. Fair game.

OANST 03-25-2013 11:16 AM

That thing with the pine cone was classic.

Nate 03-25-2013 05:09 PM

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Is it just me, or have we been hazing Wil much more since he became a part of the establishment?

I've been hazing Wil since before it was cool.