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Sydney 12-07-2001 03:36 AM

Artists...
 
I think there was a thread made eons ago by Lady Elum, but I couldn't be bothered dredging it up. I know there are a few people here who enjoy art, so who are some of your favorite artists or designers? A favorite of mine is Mark Ryden, he has some really cool looking art. Here are some examples of his work:

http://www.markryden.com/images/gall.../boyblue31.jpg
Detail:
http://www.markryden.com/images/gall.../boyblue31.jpg

http://www.markryden.com/images/gall...arge/birth.jpg

http://www.markryden.com/images/gall...rge/corkey.jpg

Go to www.markryden.com for more.

I enjoy Heironymous Bosch, Brett Whiteley and some of Van Gough. As for designers, David Carson has some really nice stuff, and of course there's the obvious Andy Warhol.

General Drippik 12-07-2001 04:01 AM

That artist is cool. I like drawings with freaky stuff in them, like those ones.

ODDBODD 12-07-2001 04:19 AM

i UNDERSTAND THE FIRST AND LAST ONE, BUT THE SECOND ONE LOST ME... I like any art, artists have different ways of viewing things, the fun part is trying to see things their way

Gluk Schmuck 12-07-2001 08:10 AM

Eeeww, weird!


I like...Rach, Claudia, Em, Abby, Akya, and everyone else who does art here.
I don't know any other artists names, but I did like most of the stuff at the Tate Modern.

oddite4456 12-07-2001 09:32 AM

Wow. I wish I could draw like that. I haven't gotten to see very many pictures here, because it takes my computer half an hour to load the pictures!

paramiteabe 12-07-2001 10:39 AM

Hey great pictures. My favorite Artist Doug Chiang. He is a concept artist who works at ILM. He works on the Star Wars movies. I think his art is spectacular. Mann I can't wait to become a concept artist.

•[cyrus]• 12-07-2001 05:32 PM

Very wird buttt............VERY COOL :eek:

Danny 12-07-2001 07:25 PM

Wow, those paintings are really beautiful! I don't really have a favourite artist [I'm a little uncultured when it comes to Art, I'm afraid] but I like to think I can appreciate good art when I see it. I might be wrong, of course...

Kroenig the Glukkon 12-07-2001 07:26 PM

the first one is wierd and the second is just plain disturbing... in a good way of course. the second one lost me as well :confuzzled:


oh yeah forgot to say favorite artists...

Julie Dillon. and the other ones are on this forum.

[ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Kroenig the Glukkon ]

Melvin:squeeking paramite 12-07-2001 07:48 PM

Yeah, I really like Mark Ryden. I didn't think any one would start a topic about him, as he is fairly obscure... he is definetly one of my favorite pop/surrealism artists. There is also an art book called "The Art of Mark Ryden: Anima Mundi" full of his art. Very good book.

As for other artists, I love surrealism. Dali is a big favorite of mine. I also like Bosch, Van Gough, H.R Giger, Buniel, Andy Warhol, and many others. Another cool artist is Dave McKean, who designed some amazing photography and illustrations for some of Niel Gaiman's graphic novels. mmm... art...

Black Dragon 12-07-2001 08:49 PM

I have about three favorite artists, excluding our own members that are extremely talented artists: Goldenwolf, Sidian Silverhawke, and ShadowWolf.

(This may take awhile)

First is Goldenwolf. She's an excellent were/furre/wolf artist. All of her drawings are clean, and totally amazing. I've admired her art for quite some time now. Here's a sample of her work:
http://www.goldenwolfen.com/myart/2001/gryphons.jpg
http://www.goldenwolfen.com

Another artist that I absolutely adore is Sidian Silverhawke. Sidian is a fellow dragon/were dragon, but something that makes her unique is that she only has one eye in real life. Her artwork shows no signs of this, however, and she never fails to amaze me.

Erk, her site is down, I'll post something of her's when it's back up.

Lastly, a friend of mine whose art is amazing. ShadowWolf has her own cool little wolfie style that makes her pics stand out.

(Let's see if this works)
http://www.side7.com/art/shadwolf/IceMoon2.jpg
She did this one for me of my character Ice Moon (yes, that is a wolf with a long mane ;) )

Oddsville 12-07-2001 09:05 PM

I don't really have a favorite artist either, but I do love to draw. Thats parcticly all I do in my free time. If I had to choose a favorite artist I would have to say Leanardo Davinche, I love to look at his inventions think to myself about how far ahead of his times his inventions where.

Roop 12-07-2001 09:25 PM

I was looking at that gallery and I noticed the picture tiki god and it looks a lot like images from the game 9 The Last Resort http://www.markryden.com/images/gall...large/tiki.jpg

Roop 04-21-2002 04:09 PM

Screwed Up?
 
I was looking of Mark Ryden's art and i noticed a bunch of pictures with naked little girls I didn't think any of it until i say this pictured what the hell is up with that? http://www.markryden.com/images/gall...l/sophia35.jpg

Whistling kettle 04-21-2002 04:16 PM

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Erm.................... that pic.................

SeaRex 04-21-2002 04:42 PM

I wonder why I haven't posted here yet...

Anywho, my fave artist (of "real" museum art) is Xu Bing who makes brilliant artwork out of the chinese alphabet, and invented square caligraphy.

Jacob 04-21-2002 04:50 PM

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I was looking of Mark Ryden's art and i noticed a bunch of pictures with naked little girls I didn't think any of it until i say this pictured what the hell is up with that?
Paedophiles paradise i believe they call that one. The Modern Tate art gallery in Newcastle (Or sumwhere) is full of shit. Modern day art is a pile of crap. Although, one of the funny things was a 'Art' video. In which this was was putting on loads of clothes...that gave me and a few friends a laugh...hmmm...amusingness.

morphius 04-21-2002 10:31 PM

No offense but I find these pictures to be very abstract as well as very disturbing, my favorite artists are ones who paint or draw still life or the famous impressionists, and ones who have the actual ability to draw........

Majic 04-21-2002 11:20 PM

Art is more along based with creating what doesn't exist, thats of the powers. True, those look different then what most of us tink about, but can't you accept and aknowledge the skill involved? Who cares if they look creepy and scary, the're of the mind and show no boudries on what things can actualy be, and I think those pictures were actualy drawn (and ones who have the actual ability to draw........) I'm taking it as you didn't think the pictures posted here were made with people that had the ability to daw.

morphius 04-21-2002 11:25 PM

Personally I do not think these people had the actual, natural talent to draw so they resort to more abstract and other ways to express. This is not neccessarily bad but I think a good artists needs both, and I like an artists who shows they have both, and I admire artists that are like this.......It is not an attack against them though.....

Al the Vykker 04-21-2002 11:27 PM

Art is the artists view, what may seem cruse or disguesting to you maybe a masterpiec to someone else. You may have to look at it from other perspectives, to see the true picture.

Melvin:squeeking paramite 04-22-2002 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by Morphius
No offense but I find these pictures to be very abstract as well as very disturbing, my favorite artists are ones who paint or draw still life or the famous impressionists, and ones who have the actual ability to draw........
No offence? Why would any one take offence to someone calling art abstract or disturbing? Abstract art is wonderful, a very interesting form of art. And disturbing art, well, that's just a word to describe what the content is. Not necessarily good or bad. I also love still lifes, but "ones who have the ability to draw"? Uh... Abstract artists often have the ability to draw! Mark Ryden certainly can draw, he has amazing talent. If you're telling me that artists can only have talent if they draw from real life, then you are incredibly wrong. Look at Dali. He paints from his dreams, and though his art is very surreal, it is still realistic. Not the ideas of his art, but he can draw a human realistically, animals, etc. And though Ryden's art is weird, he obviously has talent. Really, try to have an open mind.

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Originally posted by Morphius
Personally I do not think these people had the actual, natural talent to draw so they resort to more abstract and other ways to express. This is not neccessarily bad but I think a good artists needs both, and I like an artists who shows they have both, and I admire artists that are like this.......It is not an attack against them though.....
Uh... Once again, an ignorant thought. Just because they draw in an abstract way, does not mean they don't have talent. If you would look at the paintings, instead of just disregarding them ignorantly, you can see that he can paint realistically also. When you say both, do you mean talent to draw abstract, and realistic? Well, if so, Ryden is very talented...

Murphy, could you name some artists that you like?

morphius 04-22-2002 12:51 AM

As a fellow artist I think it is much harder to paint, draw or make things more realistic and make them look as a photograph... Anyone with a mind and some talent can make abstract things, I know this but I was saying I admire artists that can create things that are realistic (in terms of real life) and can make things proportionate-as real life.....These artists demonstrate natural talent and apply them to their realistic paintings....To replicate something exactly is amazing.......This is my ultimate goal...then I could see moving on to abstract.....Its just my opinion.....Not always but most artists who cant draw realistically draw abstractly.....Or the artists just has the emotion and not the talent with it.. Sometimes I admire the beauty rather than the emotion or what the work holds......

Majic 04-22-2002 12:58 AM

Murphy, I never would have guessed you were an artist... But soemtimes people aren't inspired by drawing whats in front of them. THe abstract art posted in this topic is extremely detailed and well made, I hope you notice that. Abstract is to let loose imagination and creativity, not because you just can't draw things in real life. I'm sure the abstract artists mentioned in this thread just went "O, i can't draw real life stuff, I'll jsut make up a bunch of crap so my crap will look decent!" I find your statements abotu abstract art to be very ignorant and false. And to replicate something amazing would be cool and all, but would you rahter see a McDonalds drawn with absolutely every detailed brick scratch and chip drawn in, or or fantasy pictures of creatures and imaginary heavens. Abstract art isn't a fallback you dolt, its a form of art itsself people enjoy.

morphius 04-22-2002 01:04 AM

I do not think it is false , being a fellow artists because ,drawing that mcdonalds picture is not what I had in mind but, is much harder to create.... I could draw a great picture of mystical dragons and such that look good but I do not admire this that much, but making something like this that looks like a real life creature whether it is really real or not I could admire.....Its just my opinion of a fellow artist.....An abstract artists has no boundaries to work within, the realism one does though, and the other question is then could this abstract artists use this talent you say to draw the incredibly hard realistic art in terms of looking like a photograph-(best ex.) even though it may, please do not see this a an offense to artists you like it is just my opinion as an artist..... Im sorry im just saying making things perfect is much harder.....

Sydney 04-22-2002 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by morphius
I do not think it is false , being a fellow artists because ,drawing that mcdonalds picture is not what I had in mind but, is much harder to create.... I could draw a great picture of mystical dragons and such that look good but I do not admire this that much, but making something like this that looks like a real life creature whether it is really real or not I could admire.....Its just my opinion of a fellow artist.....An abstract artists has no boundaries to work within, the realism one does though, and the other question is then could this abstract artists use this talent you say to draw the incredibly hard realistic art in terms of looking like a photograph-(best ex.) even though it may, please do not see this a an offense to artists you like it is just my opinion as an artist..... Im sorry im just saying making things perfect is much harder.....
If that's what you consider to be good art, then the artist is no more than a time-wasting camera. Sure, landscapes and still-lifes are pretty to look at, but they say absolutely nothing - unlike Mark Ryden's work. Art would be very dull indeed if it were all realism and realist-expressionism.

Don't get me wrong, I'd hang a Fragonard in my living room before a Dali (don't quote me on that) but I believe there's room for all kinds of art. Sweeping all non-realism art into the bin would be a tragedy.

Doug 04-22-2002 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by morphius
No offense but I find these pictures to be very abstract as well as very disturbing, my favorite artists are ones who paint or draw still life or the famous impressionists, and ones who have the actual ability to draw........ As a fellow artist I think it is much harder to paint, draw or make things more realistic and make them look as a photograph...
Someone (not you, morphius) with a better background in art please correct me if I'm wrong , but it's my impression the fact that the art works in this thread have things recognizeable as people, animals, and concrete, everyday objects means that this is not abstract art.

I also think that creating photorealistic recreations takes technical expertise, but I don't see anything artistic about it.

Teal 04-22-2002 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by Doug
Someone (not you, morphius) with a better background in art please correct me if I'm wrong , but it's my impression the fact that the art works in this thread have things recognizeable as people, animals, and concrete, everyday objects means that this is not abstract art.

I also think that creating photorealistic recreations takes technical expertise, but I don't see anything artistic about it.

I may not have a "qualified" art background (I only took art in year 9, I took music for GCSE instead) but in my view, if someone said a work was "abstract" I'd think "things about it aren't 'normal' (for want of a better word)" - for example, parsnips with human faces having toy mice removed by caesarian section...

I define "art" as anything that a person has obviously spent time over. Morph might think that Mark Ryden isn't a very good artist as he doesn't paint "realistic" things, but who cares? I wouldn't be able to paint like that for years, maybe ever. And truth be told he probably CAN paint still lifes and suchlike (after all, all the "abstract" work, as Doug pointed out, is actually very realistic, just rather surreal) he just finds them dull as hell and wants to stretch his talents a bit. After all, if all I did was sit painting fruit all the time I'd have given up drawing years ago.

Sydney 04-22-2002 09:51 AM

You're right, Doug. The figures in Mark Ryden's paintings aren't abstracted, they're just exaggerated.

morphius 04-22-2002 05:07 PM

The key is teal could you paint that fruit perfectly..........