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Paul 01-31-2010 01:53 PM

Abes Oddysee Demo ps1/psx
 
I remember someone one here said they saw an error saying "Can't find id for lever" or something in the play station version of the demo. So...

I found my very very old version of the demo on the "Demo 1" cd from like 1996 or something and had a look at what strings are in it. I could not see the level id string thing anywhere :( Does this mean there is more than one version of the demo floating around out there?

But on the other hand I found these interesting strings that might give some clues to things that where removed if anyone knows anything about them ;)

BLOW BOMBS WITH SPIRIT RINGS

QUEST FOR SPIRIT RINGS

SPIRITS SPEAK THROUGH SPIRIT LIGHTS

REMEMBER THE SONG

POSSESS THE BELLS

RETURN TO RUPTURE FARMS

FAREWELL ELUM

HIDE UNDER PLATFORM TO ESCAPE FIRE FROM ABOVE

There also seems to me some karma related strings?

Angelic
Evil, but getting better
Cruel, but getting better
Neutral, but getting better
Good, and getting better
Cruel, and getting worse
Neutral, but getting worse
Good, but getting worse
Angelic, but getting worse

And finally there is a save file called this:

STORM%02d.SAV

(%02d means it will be replaced by a number like 07 / xx etc )

TheAdmiester 01-31-2010 02:08 PM

Some interesting things you've found there, (I'd love to know where I can find the Demo 1 to run it through an emulator and find the hidden screens etc :P) have you looked at the .CAM files for the demo by any chance?

MA 01-31-2010 02:27 PM

if you want to know whether there's another demo that has AO on it, i have an old PS1 demo with both AO & AE on it, along with 2 other games. doesn't have the proper case so going by what's said on the disc, its a compilation of GT interactive software games, 1998. no actual name on it.

dunno how this could help anyway, other than you knowing for definite that there's another AO demo.

Paul 01-31-2010 03:06 PM

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if you want to know whether there's another demo that has AO on it, i have an old PS1 demo with both AO & AE on it, along with 2 other games. doesn't have the proper case so going by what's said on the disc, its a compilation of GT interactive software games, 1998. no actual name on it.

dunno how this could help anyway, other than you knowing for definite that there's another AO demo.

If you could get the MD5 hash of the demo's exe to see if its the same or not that would be cool. Or a file listing maybe.

@TheAdmiester I can't view the cam files since as in mario where the princess is in another castle, the cam files are in another format, boo!

Edit: Actually comparing file names could be enough to check if there are any extra screens, but you wouldn't know if any of the SAME screens have different content

mlg man 01-31-2010 04:12 PM

I would die to see what they left out of this game. (STORM?) The game was origanaly called storm, but gt changed it to abe's oddysee.

Paul 01-31-2010 04:17 PM

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I would die to see what they left out of this game. (STORM?) The game was origanaly called storm, but gt changed it to abe's oddysee.

Hmm I didn't know that, it would be interesting to know what the "fire from above" is.

mlg man 01-31-2010 04:43 PM

It seems that all the words are Capitalized, in this case, it means they were firefly messages, you know, when abe chants. And fire from above? It would be cool if there were fire. they have obviously taken all the files from the work in progress, made a demo executable, remove unnessesary files, then forgot that strings from other levels are in a file. Thats what i think. :)

Nate 01-31-2010 09:19 PM

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I would die to see what they left out of this game. (STORM?) The game was origanaly called storm, but gt changed it to abe's oddysee.

'Soulstorm', actually.

Wil 02-01-2010 02:31 AM

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BLOW BOMBS WITH SPIRIT RINGS

QUEST FOR SPIRIT RINGS

SPIRITS SPEAK THROUGH SPIRIT LIGHTS

REMEMBER THE SONG

POSSESS THE BELLS

RETURN TO RUPTURE FARMS

FAREWELL ELUM

HIDE UNDER PLATFORM TO ESCAPE FIRE FROM ABOVE

Some of these, or messages very similar to them, are in the final game, including ‘Farewell Elum’ and ‘Blow bombs with spirit rings’. Spirit rings are presumably the red rings that cause machines to explode, though it's never actually stated that's their name. ‘Spirit lights’ are new, as is ‘fire from above’. And the ‘Remember the song’ message may mean the player originally had to ring the bells of a chimelock manually.

TheAdmiester 02-01-2010 03:27 AM

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Hmm I didn't know that, it would be interesting to know what the "fire from above" is.

I thought that too (if you mean what I think you mean :p), but then I thought that it might just be a slig firing at you, not an actual fire.

Xavier 02-01-2010 05:56 AM

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And the ‘Remember the song’ message may mean the player originally had to ring the bells of a chimelock manually.

Actually that wouldn't surprise me at all. I always felt the game was designed that way.

Paul 02-01-2010 09:07 AM

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Actually that wouldn't surprise me at all. I always felt the game was designed that way.

Me too AND it annoyed me when I already knew the bell song and it wouldn't let me do it manually! (Well you can but it won't matter if its right or not)

Edit: After looking in the lvl archives I do feel compelled to reverse the psx cam formats.. there is one level thats never used that only has 3 screens in it. Also check out the ban file names.. some strange ones! Another strange thing is that in this demo they only BLY files instead of paths in BND's

Edit again: Boo nevermind its the 3 screens of the stockyards :(

Edit: There IS a sound of a slig saying "STAY" though :O

Final edit: Attached the "stay" sound and some other unknown slig speak

Paul 02-03-2010 03:31 PM

so no one knows what the unknown sound is? or even what its saying?

mlg man 02-03-2010 08:02 PM

I think i do, when you kill a slig with the lever that make that crushing thing go down and blow up the slig, it makes a mooshy sound when it dies. ??

Wil 02-04-2010 01:03 AM

I think he's saying "Evnmo BS".

Paul 02-04-2010 11:28 AM

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I think he's saying "Evnmo BS".

Hmm are you sure thats what it is? Because that sound is also in that vb file further on so I don't think it would be in there twice?

Scraby 04-08-2010 01:51 PM

sounds like hes calling a dog
as i understood,here waf

Wil 04-08-2010 02:23 PM

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Hmm are you sure thats what it is? Because that sound is also in that vb file further on so I don't think it would be in there twice?

Delayed response here, but I was joking. I didn't mean to say it was "S'mo BS", I meant I couldn't make out any intelligible words, so it might as well be another nonsense sound.

STM 04-09-2010 07:16 AM

yeh sounds like here bwf like here boy, maybe not english?

Scraby 04-09-2010 08:34 AM

or it might be a prototype for get him,fires from above,seems like hide from rocks or from something that can smash you or something,or bees.