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Wings of Fire 11-17-2009 06:11 AM

The moral dilemma thread
 
George and the weapons of mass destruction
George is a recently-qualified chemist with a young family to support. He finds it difficult to get a job due to a weak constitution. An older chemist friend tells George that he can get him a well-paid job in a chemical and biological weapons lab. George is not too keen. A child of the sixties, he is opposed to the creation and stockpiling of weapons of mass destruction. The older colleague sympathises and agrees with his view, but notes that the job is not going to go away. If George doesn’t take it, some other chemist who is a zealous advocate of such weapons will get it. This will invariably result in the speedier development of better, more deadly weapons. What should George do?

Try to come up with some others as well, there are websites full of them out there.

used:) 11-17-2009 06:58 AM

Abortion.

Wings of Fire 11-17-2009 06:59 AM

NOVEL ONES YOU SHIT

Josh 11-17-2009 07:58 AM

Make the weapons, get paid and then destroy the weapons.

OANST 11-17-2009 08:04 AM

I AM READY TO BE ORALLY PLEASURED BY WOMAN BUT WOMAN DOESN'T FEEL GOOD BUT I AM READY TO BE ORALLY PLEASURED WHAT DO I DO.

Disgruntled Intern 11-17-2009 08:44 AM

Rape her mouth.

Pilot 11-17-2009 09:23 AM

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I AM READY TO BE ORALLY PLEASURED BY WOMAN BUT WOMAN DOESN'T FEEL GOOD BUT I AM READY TO BE ORALLY PLEASURED WHAT DO I DO.

Here, Fido!

Havoc 11-17-2009 10:21 AM

He should stop being a pussy and just take the job.

Wings of Fire 11-17-2009 10:26 AM

Havoc has a super developed moral conscience, you could all learn a lot from him.

used:) 11-17-2009 10:26 AM

Radeh radeh rah!

How about if you´re on a subway and you see a woman getting raped by a man with a gun. There are others in the same carriage but they´re not trying to help at all. Would you step in and try to save her?

OANST 11-17-2009 10:33 AM

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Radeh radeh rah!

How about if you´re on a subway and you see a woman getting raped by a man with a gun. There are others in the same carriage but they´re not trying to help at all. Would you step in and try to save her?

Or join in? That's the real moral dilemma.

MA 11-17-2009 10:34 AM

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Radeh radeh rah!

How about if you´re on a subway and you see a woman getting raped by a man with a gun. There are others in the same carriage but they´re not trying to help at all. Would you step in and try to save her?

in my current situation (no siblings or such) i honestly wouldn't even think about it. when i read your question i was a little confused as to how it could have a different answer from 'yes', but realised it may be different for elderly, children and people supporting family.

used:) 11-17-2009 10:34 AM

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Or join in? That's the real moral dilemma.

I knew you would say that.

OANST 11-17-2009 10:35 AM

I knew you would know. I must live up to expectations. No matter how low they may be.

OddjobAbe 11-17-2009 10:38 AM

If I knew that the gun was empty/full of non-lethal ammunition. If not, I would find the video that had been circulated on the internet as evidence.

Fuzzle Guy 11-17-2009 10:44 AM

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Make the weapons, get paid and then destroy the weapons.

Yeah, piss off the people who specialise in weaponry.

MA 11-17-2009 10:51 AM

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Yeah, piss off the people who specialise in weaponry.

i know. i was gonna mention how would he destroy them without suspicion, and if he thought he'd be able to get away with such a feat. but i couldn't be arsed.

Fuzzle Guy 11-17-2009 12:06 PM

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i know. i was gonna mention how would he destroy them without suspicion, and if he thought he'd be able to get away with such a feat. but i couldn't be arsed.

To be fair, Oskar Schindler got away with it for months during the Second World War, so it's not impossible

Mac Sirloin 11-17-2009 01:01 PM

If I have the sway to do so, TRY to make the chem weapons program make non lethal stuff.

Otherwise just work until a better job opens up.

T-nex 11-17-2009 01:54 PM

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Radeh radeh rah!

How about if you´re on a subway and you see a woman getting raped by a man with a gun. There are others in the same carriage but they´re not trying to help at all. Would you step in and try to save her?


Ok.. So Denmark had this really scary case of a girl who'd been raped. SOme guy dragged her, held her mouth, through the streets at night... There were plenty of people, because they were all out to the clubs and stuff. She looked as she really was in trouble, yet the police didn't get even one phonecall from people...
I can understand that people would be too scared to battle off 4 rapists... But not even call the police? I find it grotesque and disgusting how cowardly some people are.
I'd say if you're too weak, call the police and get help... If you're strong or have a weapon, go be a hero.

Wings of Fire 11-17-2009 01:55 PM

I think New York beat Denmark to Most Apathetic Bystanders by about fourty years.

enchilado 11-17-2009 01:57 PM

*Forty.

Okay, say you are being chased by the two last meeches alive, a male and female. Or a queen and a drone, whatever. You have a big gun and you can easily take them out, but do you? Do you die or kill the last of this species?


~it doesn't have to be meeches, either...
Enchilado

T-nex 11-17-2009 01:58 PM

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I think New York beat Denmark to Most Apathetic Bystanders by about fourty years.

Well that's great! New York wins the contest :)

Strike Witch 11-17-2009 02:18 PM

If I was in the chemist's position, I'd take the job and try my hardest to build safeguards and limits into the weaponry. But I'd still take the job.

Bullet Magnet 11-18-2009 11:45 AM

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George and the weapons of mass destruction
George is a recently-qualified chemist with a young family to support. He finds it difficult to get a job due to a weak constitution. An older chemist friend tells George that he can get him a well-paid job in a chemical and biological weapons lab. George is not too keen. A child of the sixties, he is opposed to the creation and stockpiling of weapons of mass destruction. The older colleague sympathises and agrees with his view, but notes that the job is not going to go away. If George doesn’t take it, some other chemist who is a zealous advocate of such weapons will get it. This will invariably result in the speedier development of better, more deadly weapons. What should George do?

The choice is this: Don't take the job, fail to support family, weapons are built anyway. Or Take the job, support family and weapons are built. In this scenario, taking the job has more a more positive outcome.

However, personally I find it abhorrent that one of the most well-paid applications of science is this horrendous abuse of it. I, and no doubt George, could not look at myself in a mirror having taken this job, would feel like shit and sink deep into depression. That alone would probably be enough to tear our family apart, and is a good reason not to take it.

OANST 11-18-2009 11:51 AM

I think people are misunderstanding the point of this thread. He wants you to come up with interesting moral dilemmas, not solve the one he posted.

Wings of Fire 11-18-2009 12:36 PM

Actually I wanted both, you guys are my philosophical guinea pigs.

OANST 11-18-2009 12:48 PM

When Danson speaks, you listen.

Wings of Fire 11-18-2009 12:52 PM

Also, the trick of a moral dilemma is not the option you choose, it's the reasons you give.

Strike Witch 11-18-2009 12:55 PM

Marisa Kirisame and Alice Margatroid are neighbours in the forest of magic. Marisa has an outgoing and silly personality, while Alice is quiet and reserved. One night during a party at the nearby shrine, Alice, a bit tipsy, admitted she had a romantic interest in someone. The other people at the party were too drunk to remember the conversation, but Marisa did. Over the past two weeks, Marisa has been trying to find out who it is out of both curiosity and an urge to reveal the romance to the person, whoever it may be.

Marisa's prodding never provoked a response from Alice, so she resolved to find out another way. When Alice left her house, Marisa entered through an open window and went snooping through Alice's study. There, she found Alice's diary, and discovered to her shock that she was the one Alice loved. Then she realized that she had just broken into Alice's house and gone through her most secret thoughts to obtain private information.

If you were Marisa, what would you do next? Leave the house, pretend you never looked in the Diary and try to act normal when Alice visits for tea? Or confront her about her feelings and all the repercussions from you trespassing?