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PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 11-30-2001 10:25 PM

I am Curious on this but
 
Do vegetarians eat animals crackers? I'm not trying to spam or anything. One of my friends is a vegetarian but does not eat animal crackers because they represent animals or something. They are not meat so whay not?

Steve 11-30-2001 10:55 PM

lol well it deppends vagans might lactotarias or whatever their called might not they might say it is a grotesque use mock animal cruelty(delicious body parts everywhere *shudder*)

Sl'askia 11-30-2001 11:41 PM

Lactose intolerance? Is that what you were trying to say Steve? If so...I doubt that would be the reason...as crackers and the like don't really have that much in the sense of dairy products in it...at least not enough to case bloating or whatever those who are lactose intolerent get when they eat it.
Anywho...I think not eating something that just looks like an animal is just plain silly....what if a fruit grew wrong and ended up looking like an animal in some way? Would they eat that? I know...stupid example..

Rex Tirano 12-01-2001 10:50 AM

I don't see why not! Well *Scrathes head*

Steve 12-01-2001 01:21 PM

no I did not mean lactosintolerant I meant the people that still drink milk and eat eggs and things like that but don't eat meat and anyway I acidentaly said it the wrong way vagans would probably be less likely to eat it.

DarkHoodness 12-01-2001 03:22 PM

Well, I'm a vegitarian, and I don't care if anything is animal shaped or looks like an animal, as long as it isn't meat, that's all.
- DH

Danny 12-01-2001 06:33 PM

Ditto to what Eddie said. I think the idea is ludicrous.

Sydney 12-01-2001 07:06 PM

A person who doesn't eat animal-shaped crackers because they "represent animals" has lost sight of his cause. In his guilt, he tries harder to acheive it; it's called fanaticism!

Lantra 12-02-2001 02:35 PM

my whole family is pretty vegeterian and we would eat animal crackers.....except we dont like them.

One, Two, Middlesboogie 12-02-2001 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by Dragadon:
Anywho...I think not eating something that just looks like an animal is just plain silly....what if a fruit grew wrong and ended up looking like an animal in some way? Would they eat that? I know...stupid example..
Not a stupid example. I once found a potato shaped like a penguin.

SeaRex 12-02-2001 03:43 PM

A penguin-shaped potatoe? Creepy... :eek: I wouldn't eat.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 12-02-2001 07:54 PM

It's probably a radioactive mutated potatoe!

Eibu 12-02-2001 09:11 PM

I have a friend who is a vegetarian and thinks all those "hardcore vegens" who don't even eat eggs and dairy products are ridiculous...she is only opposed to the death of the animal for food, but if it produces it, like cows milk, then why not? BTW eggs don't count as a kill because mass produced eggs for market consumption never had a chance of being fertilized anyway.

Meanwhile give me steak and sushi anyday!!

[ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Eibu ]

Sydney 12-02-2001 09:27 PM

I have a lot of respect for vegans. Your friend who is opposed to the death of animals for food has no problem with enslavement and suffering for food though? She draws the line at death? Besides, death is a byproduct of commercially produced eggs. Millions of worthless male chicks are tossed into a dumpster once they hatch, they can't lay and you certainly don't need many for mating. Dead and dying male chicks:
http://www.factoryfarming.com/gallery/chicks02.jpg

The only eggs I eat come from my two pet hens. My hens aren't kept awake all night in tiny cages, forced to lay egg after egg.

Milk though, I don't think is such a problem. Milking isn't exactly torture on the animal.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 12-02-2001 09:39 PM

Eew! Those eggs are nasty! But sydney, do you eat animal crackers? I find it kinds strange because they are not real animals! Just animals shaped cookies. She just refuses to eat them.

Eibu 12-02-2001 09:50 PM

Well I can't say what exactly her beliefs are so maybe I miss "quoted" her and I'm not going to argue in here since I don't know squat about the subject for I'm afraid I add to the problem...

Maybe some day the chosen chicken will rise up...evolution sucks I guess.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 12-02-2001 09:52 PM

There's nothing really to argue about.

Eibu 12-02-2001 09:54 PM

I meant argue over animal treatment in general since I'd be defenseless against the likes of some people in here...maybe if I was a chicken or if it was my kids then I'd be a little more active.

Steve 12-02-2001 10:27 PM

mmm keeping your own chickens might be a good idea if I could find where to get them and if there are no zoning laws.

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 12-02-2001 10:34 PM

WOuld chickens be considered meat to some people?

Teal 12-03-2001 10:06 AM

Milk... Hmm. Although I'm not a vegetarian/vegan myself, the way we obtain milk is pretty dodgy... For one, the cow has to have had a calf to produce milk (and keep producing calves to produce it for however-many-years she'll be used for her milk for) so there's lots and lots of unwanted calves produced every year (most get sold for continental veal, I believe...?). And I vaguely remember reading somewhere that their udders are often so distended with the huge load of milk they have to carry before being milked makes it painful to walk. There was something about hormones as well, but I can't remember what it was... Hm

Surfacing 12-03-2001 10:29 AM

Ain't touching this topic with a 100 foot pole!!!!!!!!!

Danny 12-03-2001 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by PinkHaired Mudokon CWR:
WOuld chickens be considered meat to some people?
Of course they would! They're considered meat by everyone, due to the fact that they are the flesh of an animal... What else would they be? Of course they're meat!

Teal, I was under the impression that, once a calf had been produced, the udders continued to produce milk as long as they were milked. I might be wrong, but I could have sworn that was the way it worked...

[ December 03, 2001: Message edited by: Rettick ]

PinkHaired Mudokon CWR 12-03-2001 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by Rettick:
Of course they would! They're considered meat by everyone, due to the fact that they are the flesh of an animal... What else would they be? Of course they're meat!

Teal, I was under the impression that, once a calf had been produced, the udders continued to produce milk as long as they were milked. I might be wrong, but I could have sworn that was the way it worked...

[ December 03, 2001: Message edited by: Rettick ]

No, some people think it's poultry dummy! LOL