Oddworld Forums

Oddworld Forums (http://www.oddworldforums.net/index.php)
-   Oddworld Discussion (http://www.oddworldforums.net/forumdisplay.php?f=6)
-   -   Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee Perfect Speedrun (http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=17402)

antd 09-20-2008 07:00 PM

Abe's Oddysee: **Perfect Speedrun**
 
Videos:

Rupture Farms/Stockyard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ8ZSKW478Q

Monsaic Lines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXmS38ZGxSE

Paramonia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL08jw_yTvM

Paramonian Temple Door 1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wpXxxwPvF50

Paramonian Temple Door 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJrNNtLM2iA

Paramonian Temple Door 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4_VURp37qs

Paramonian Temple Door 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejy3b1KdrPw

Paramonian Temple Door 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjvk7Q8qHbI

Paramonian Temple Door 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTZ9RgBDBkY

Paramonian Temple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyT0tiqhs6E

Scrabania
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbPeVy1P1UI

Hello.

I have come here for help and insight to this wonderful game^^

I am currently working on a tool-assisted speedrun (TAS) of this game (PSX NTSC). This is where I play using an emulator and save/load/slowdown etc.
This means you will be seeing Abe's Oddysee completed in the fastest time without human error and without slow human reaction speed! See the video below.

I will no doubt have many questions about the fastest strategies, glitches, tricks etc, as I progress.


I'm going purely for fastest time in this run, maybe after I will do 100% completion by saving everybody. But let's leave that thought alone for a while :-P

If you think I'm too slow somewhere in the video, please post to let me know. And I can try out your strategies too, to see if they are faster.

Fuzzle Guy 09-21-2008 02:11 AM

Haha Awesome! I love how every time you just miss the Sligs gunfire, and that Slig falling off the ledge! :D Priceless

Keep em coming.

DarKo 09-21-2008 04:41 AM

Hi antd, nice idea making a X# segments speedrun.

You have probably already seen this but if you havent;
If you want nice tips on how to accomplish things faster I really have to refer to the quickest speedrun I've seen so far http://speeddemosarchive.com/AbesOddysee.html which was posted in 2006. That one is done in 10 segments only and I am confident that you surely can beat that if you time everything 100%.


And about the mines blowing up my tip would be to throw the stone right when the elevator reaches the top while you are standing up, which I think is possible. That way you would get rid of milliseconds stopping one extra time before jumping down.

antd 09-21-2008 05:02 AM

I'm glad you liked it.

Thanks for that link.
I recently tried many many different throw combinations/distances etc and this was actually faster than just going up and throwing. If you go up and throw the bomb, it explodes 3 times, separately, which makes it slower in the long run (iirc). Thanks for the suggestion though.

I've finished the entire first stage now:
VIDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ8ZSKW478Q

Let me know what you think^^

First stage: 3 minutes 34 seconds

DarKo 09-21-2008 05:36 AM

Looks pretty much flawless, keep it up! :)

Ya I figured it was faster since u stop at the very end, but Abe falls back from the explosion but it dusnt really matter since when you are up again the explosions have JUST stopped.

skillya_glowi 09-21-2008 04:44 PM

That thing stole all my ideas D:

antd 09-23-2008 04:09 AM

Monsaic Lines

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI1mhXHgeR4

Xavier 09-23-2008 06:42 AM

looking impressive! keep it up

Ollyabe 09-23-2008 07:58 PM

nice work!! Keep it up

antd 09-23-2008 11:59 PM

Come on guys none of you suggested to try and trick the first slig ;)

Monsaic Lines (faster)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXmS38ZGxSE

I tricked the slig instead of chanting. Saves a lot of time.
Next stage is Paramonia.

Are there any known glitches? I may have to do some hardcore testing to find some

DarKo 09-24-2008 06:05 AM

Lol I was actually going to suggest it (RLY!) but I thought you had tried it out already, since chanting is a huge waste of time at any moment. I will comment all the time from now on! ;D

antd 09-24-2008 06:16 AM

Paramonia WIP1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAzjYHsYd64

There's a shortcut thanks to the walk through walls glitch which I use later in this stage ^^

antd 09-26-2008 01:36 AM

Paramonia WIP2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL08jw_yTvM

I walk through the wall to save time. What normally happens is:
1. Do the password
2. Tell Elum to follow me
3. Wait for the hoist ledge thing to be hoisted down
4. Climb up the hoist

As you can see, this takes a long time.

Let me know what you think, your ideas could save time ^^

antd 09-27-2008 12:03 AM

Paramonian Temple Door 1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wpXxxwPvF50

sam250 09-27-2008 03:15 AM

Brilliant work- I left a comment on your first vid.

antd 09-27-2008 05:10 AM

Paramonian Temple Door 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YY8AZ182PI

I have another strategy but I'm really unsure if it's faster or not. Would take a long time to test.

It involves not triggering the boulder and manually getting past the bees. It's possible to do if you throw a piece of meat and get the paramite to eat it on the beehive. You can then get the song without bees harming you...

I think it may be slower because it would potentially require stopping or walking to get past the beehive.

edit: I'm going to test this theory tonight.

Clakker Shooter 09-27-2008 06:31 AM

You can do it faster by rolling past the bees as soon as you get in the door, and kill the paramite that's guarding your way to the flintlock, and quickly get the bellsong while the bees kill the paramite. it doesn't always work, but this way, you don't even have to go to the rolling rock.

antd 09-27-2008 09:31 AM

Yes, that was my general idea.

I've finished testing and this is the fastest method I've found so far

Paramonian Temple Door 2 faster method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypCWEU2pWxQ

I don't do the boulder thing. And luckily the bees don't kill me :)

Thanks for posting everyone^^

insodp 09-27-2008 01:37 PM

I confess that I really wasn´t expecting of such speed, keep it up.

antd 09-27-2008 02:02 PM

I think I can improve it.

Perhaps I should throw the meat onto the hive as soon as I reach the song room.
I usually enter, wait a while, then pass over the hive. During this wait I should've thrown the meat onto it. Then lure the paramite, which will go straight for the meat. Thus saving time.

Since the objective is to get the paramite onto the hive as soon as possible.

Although, if I do it too fast then the paramite will die quicker and the bees will rape me during the song.

I'll try this tomorrow!

antd 09-28-2008 07:04 AM

Paramonian Temple Door 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv30cttJa30

Slig commits suicide :)

Grandi 09-28-2008 12:42 PM

Very cool speedrunning indeed! And I thought I'am good at running throught those levels, you break all my records :O

antd 09-29-2008 01:53 AM

^^
New Paramonian Temple Door 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJrNNtLM2iA

This way is 16 seconds faster.

antd 09-29-2008 05:17 AM

New Paramonian Temple Door 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4_VURp37qs

6 seconds faster. I make the slog slip by rolling right for a tiny amount of time and then rolling the other way. This is how I avoid him attacking me.

antd 10-02-2008 07:11 AM

May I bump with new videos:

Paramonian Temple Door 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTZ9RgBDBkY

Paramonian Temple Final Door
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyT0tiqhs6E

Scrabania
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbPeVy1P1UI

Xavier 10-02-2008 07:53 AM

I officially allow antd to bump with new videos... don't exaggerate.