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Xavier 03-17-2008 07:14 AM

A glimpse of Citizen Siege
 
OddBlog is pleased to present you it's new "OddBlog Special" called: ‘A glimpse of Citizen Siege’.

We provide you with seven Citizen Siege production paintings by Raymond Swanland, used by Lorne to pitch the film. Four of them could already be found in Iain Simon’s book, Inside Game Design, published in 2007. Those were scanned an posted here by Alcar.

So now here they are in mighty hi-resolution and accompanied by three additional exclusive pictures.

A glimpse of Citizen Siege

Alcar 03-17-2008 07:27 AM

Excellent, truly excellent.

Thank you Max and Xavier!

Alcar...

squeak117 03-17-2008 07:44 AM

I wouldn't say 'it's all coming together', but damn... I'm seriously finding it difficult to have to wait until 2010 for this movie to come out. Cheers for those, they're bloody excellent.

Unorthodox 03-17-2008 07:48 AM

Thanks for the pictures :)

P.S I wonder what this is? :S

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i.../CACS00012.jpg

Xavier 03-17-2008 08:13 AM

That's one of Lorne's visit cards, like the one I have.

Nate 03-17-2008 08:22 AM

Nice. Were the comments underneath the photos written by Lorne or by you?

Fuzzle Guy 03-17-2008 08:27 AM

Yay! These a brilliant pieces of art.
http://oddworldlibrary.net/oddblog/s...s/CACS0006.jpg

Is that Lorne on the left of the picture?

abe is now! 03-17-2008 08:27 AM

Thank you Xavier! They are awesome :)!!!

Xavier 03-17-2008 08:29 AM

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Nice. Were the comments underneath the photos written by Lorne or by you?

We only got the pictures, all the rest is from the Librarians (mostly Max).

Wil 03-17-2008 03:07 PM

Yes, I should make explicit that the writing is our own, and should not have any real authority read into it. I should really make explicit a couple more things in the article, but I was pressed for time and published this just ten minutes before I had to jet off to work.

I do love the giant robotic security cameras. They’re outrageously obvious and intrusive, a sure sign that the people in the Citizen Siege universe have signed their freedoms away for the promise of security. And Manchines! Finally, this mysterious word is acquiring a meaning!

skillyaslig 03-17-2008 11:27 PM

Hell, thats great! See what the Odds are up to next!! XD Damn, looks Hard core! Thankies :D

Tristan 03-18-2008 05:16 AM

This seems like Oddworld inviades Earth. O_o

DarkHoodness 03-18-2008 07:14 AM

Yay, it's always good to see more artwork from Raymond Swanland. :D I like how he always sets the atmosphere perfectly in his pics, and you can always tell his style.

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This seems like Oddworld inviades Earth. O_o

Agreed. . . The cameras look a bit like Snoozers. And the more I see stuff from CS, the more interesting it seems. Maybe they'll base or re-use more ideas on the stuff they did for Oddworld.

But it all still reminds me of Half-Life 2 somewhat. :P I hope this changes.

OddYouko 03-18-2008 07:25 AM

Look at the gass prices on the second picture! :eek:
Love the pictures!

DarkHoodness 03-18-2008 09:09 AM

Oh! I just realised something! I could be wrong, but you know, this is just what I think. And maybe some other people here have said this already, but this may back up what they said.

http://www.oddworldforums.net/attach...6&d=1205860954

Look carefully at this picture. Now we can all see it in higher quality, do you all notice how quickley it's been done? Right.

Now, look at the difference between the Shell logo, the background, and the drawn soldiers and scenary in the foreground. This concept art is a mix between brush strokes and photo manipulation, all to set the scene, which is the whole purpose of concept artwork. :P For this, I really don't think OWI are promoting Shell at all - It's simply used as an example.

Early production days, huh? :)

Alector 03-18-2008 09:13 AM

You have a good eye for detail, Hoody. XD

Anyway, in my opinion, I know for myself and from my apprenticeship as a graphics designer that concept artwork must be done in a hurry, yet it must bring the perfect effect of what the concept is about, mostly using colours and light.

Raymond Swanland used thick paint strokes in photoshop to bring the effect of the foreground in comparison to the lighter mix of real photos in the background. It is quite clever and awe inspiring - Even I couldn't think of doing something like that. XD But Lorne probably stands behind Raymond in his leather pants while he draws, dancing and yelling "Quicker! Quicker!" X)

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That's one of Lorne's visit cards, like the one I have.

Visit Cards? What you get for visiting OWI or so? What are they? *wants to have one too* *green with envy* XP

Fuzzle Guy 03-18-2008 12:08 PM

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For this, I really don't think OWI are promoting Shell at all - It's simply used as an example.

There is nothing wrong with having Shell in the film. It makes the movie even more believable, to see that a major shop is still there, and not replaced by a fictional one. I would actually be glad if Shell was in the movie. It's not as if the whole movie is going to surround the plot of the Shell Garage :p

sam250 03-18-2008 12:50 PM

Awesome pictures there! Getting more pumped for this movie at every little thing I see for it!

As for the Shell issue... I agree with Ol' Fuzzle Guy. I don't think that the inclusion of Shell is going to ruin the movie, and it at least helps people relate to it a bit more.

Wil 03-18-2008 01:40 PM

I don’t think Citizen Siege will promote Shell; if anything, more like the opposite. Dismote it. It will be a blessing if they can get away with it. Not just make the Citizen Siege world more believable, it will give Shell and the oil industry a real kick in the groin.

The ‘visit cards’ are just Lorne’s business cards, with his contact details on, such as any person might have. They’re not exactly high-class merchandise (although we made sure we got them ;)).

Havoc 03-18-2008 03:19 PM

I'm glad to see some Oddworldian influances in CS. While it's not set on Oddworld or has any of the characters, it still has that certain feel to it and thats good to see.
However I am a bit worried about the visual quality CS is going to be. When OWI started with OA 12 or so years ago they were top notch when it came to 3D movies. IMO they stood above even things like Pixar and stuff and they revolutionized the way 3D movies were used in games in their own way. However, the CGI movie industry has done a LOT in the past 12 years and has surpassed OWI in almost every way when it comes to movie quality. Games that are being released right now have some of the most awsome CGI movies I have seen to date, Army of Two to give a prime example.
I am worried that in the next two to three years the CGI industry will be moving on while OWI will stay with the technology they had when they started on CS. As a result we'll get a movie that might not be up to the standards we'll be used to by then. It will always be OWI's in-house style but I'm afraid their biggest enemy is constantly changing technology and the low funding they have compared to other companies.

Anyway, that was my little rant. The concept art looks very good. Thanks for posting Xav and Max :D.

skillya_glowi 03-18-2008 06:16 PM

Very beautiful, I love the dark atmosphere. And having elements in the movie that are from the world we know makes it easier to relate to the world that is being introduced, right? It'll be interesting to see the picture CS paints of the future, however from the concept art, it's obviously not an optimistic one.
Thank you Max and Xavier :D

DarkHoodness 03-19-2008 04:54 AM

Yay, wrong wording. :P

By promoting, I meant that OWI probably won't be featuring, be sponsered by or having anything to do with, business wise, with Shell. You can tell why I don't want them to be officially sponsered by Shell, right? It'd be bad considering OWI's attitude. Maybe it's a little silly 'cause there isn't any basis for it except for the storyline that they want to use for CS, but that's what I feared, after Micro$uck.

It's got nothing to do with making the CS storyline more believeable by having a well-known, real brand name in it. But actually, where did you all get that idea from anyway? Even if they were attacking Shell directly, it'd be bad to include a real product into thier movie, not only 'cause they'd be paying rights, but also 'cause of subliminal advertising. The storyline of CS may put most people off buying from Shell in future, but people are really stupid and may not make the link.

Lemme elaborate a bit more. You also have to consider that the storyline will probably (But I don't know for sure of course, this is just what I think :P) follow characters around and thier stories, while giving a message against the concept of corperate greed as a whole, rather than being against any single company. And this is why, IMO, It'd be bad if the Shell logo appeared in all this, 'cause of subliminal advertising, like I mentioned above.

Now do you get me? :P

panuru 03-31-2008 11:48 AM

Okay. Citizen Siege is going to be awesome.


Thanks Max and Xavier!

GlukkonGluk 04-11-2008 05:07 AM

It's kinda obvious that Citizen Seige has nothing really to do with OW, but are OWI planning on making any movies that are actually based on Oddworld with the kind of storyline we would expect?(i.e evil industrialists, skinny guy with no weapons, etc):fuzconf:

Wings of Fire 04-11-2008 05:54 AM

Yes, the Abe's Oddysee movie is in preproduction and concept art for it can be found on TOGG.

Chronicler 04-11-2008 02:28 PM

OMG. These pics are GREAT! And they're just the concept art! :fuzsmile: I honestly expected something less and different from Citizen Siege conceptual artwork but these were what I wanted them to be like. The whole Oddworld feel to it. I mean yeah! Even those soldiers in one of those pics has a Slig-like feeling to it! (Well okay....it should be obvious that CS has the "Oddworld feel" to it but still, it looks so great!)

GlukkonGluk 04-13-2008 10:57 AM

Abe's Oddysee movie!!! Thanks Wings of Fire!!! I have something to look forward to!!!!!!:fuzgrin::fuzgrin::fuzgrin::fuzgrin::fuzsmile:

Skibur 06-28-2008 10:38 PM

Something I noticed in Citizen Seige concept
 
Hey, I think this is my first ever post, so sorry if this has been brought up before...
I was just looking through some concept art for Citizen Siege, when I noticed a face that looked familiar.

http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...=CACS0001.jpg1

To left of that image, in the thumbnails, is a picture of a man.
I think he looks very similar to Christian Bale (latest Batman movies, The Prestige etc).
What do you think?

Sorry if this is old... :/

OddjobAbe 06-28-2008 10:48 PM

I'm not quite sure. They might have Christian Bale in mind, or it may just be a coincidence, but it'll be a long time until we find out, due to the fact that Lorne is going to put every effort into this motion picture, and will take a very long time.

And welcome to the forums, herr.

Nate 06-29-2008 04:03 AM

This is a pitch; a way to graphically represent the plot and features of the film. I imagine they use all sorts of images to help them along; many would be production designs but they could also use images from other places that would represent what they're trying to get across.