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paramiteabe 03-10-2008 04:41 AM

Is the bermuda triangle a black hole?
 
I read a number of sights suggesting that the Bermuda Triangle is in fact a black hole. I have even seen a documentary television show suggesting this scenerio too.

Now I really don't think the Bermuda Triangle could possably be a Black hole because of two reasons. The two reasons are 1 a Black hole is a collaps star which means in comparison to the earth a black hole could be huge compared to the earth but yet small in star size. It would still make the earth look like a tiny speck. And 2 if it was a black hole the earth would completely pull itself into itself which doesn't make any sense.

Any thoughts on this subject? Do you think the Bermuda Triangle is a black hole or a worm hole connecting to say the Devels Triangle?

Bullet Magnet 03-10-2008 05:53 AM

The rate of disappearances for the amount of traffic in the region is just the same as that of the rest of the ocean.

And that sums up my opinion of it.


Another question I would like to put forward: how many different triangles can you find? Every one I see has corners on different points, and enclose wildly varying areas.

Laser 03-10-2008 08:01 AM

they should send a video camera in a plane and fly it over the triangle.

I mean there has got to be something out there otherwise why does stuff keep dissapearing?

abe is now! 03-10-2008 08:12 AM

Black holes are stars. They cannot be in the world.

Wings of Fire 03-10-2008 08:26 AM

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they should send a video camera in a plane and fly it over the triangle.

I mean there has got to be something out there otherwise why does stuff keep dissapearing?

The Triangle is one of the most heavily shipped lanes in the world and this has been done many times.

The main reason for the disappearances that make conspiracy theists soil their pants the world over is the fact that the area lies on the gulf stream and is thus prone to sudden storms and hurricanes. As a matter of fact the US Coast Guard records show that the amounts of wrecks/disappearances in the area is proportionately low considering its international usage.

Laser 03-10-2008 08:36 AM

you runined my vision :(

also AiN Black holes are DEAD stars and they can be anyway :chairhit:

abe is now! 03-10-2008 08:40 AM

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also AiN Black holes are DEAD stars and they can be anyway :chairhit:

Not really dead... anyway if a star falls to the Earth, I think we can see it very well. So, there couldn't be a star on the Earth.

Nate 03-10-2008 10:42 AM

You're an idiot.

*leaves it vague as to who, specifically, he was addressing*

Also... this article should answer all questions. Except for how anyone could suspect that a black hole had fallen to earth.

Laser 03-10-2008 10:43 AM

worm holes are small black holes arn't they?

paramiteabe 03-10-2008 10:54 AM

I said it was a star a collapsed star that is. But still collaps stars or black holes are still huge and enormous when compared to the size of the earth.

I think the science community is smoking something because this theory is way out there.

Hobo 03-10-2008 11:03 AM

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Not really dead... anyway if a star falls to the Earth, I think we can see it very well. So, there couldn't be a star on the Earth.

You good sir should be a scholar of science, you genius, you.

paramiteabe 03-10-2008 11:22 AM

I saw star in water at night Oogabooga!:lol:
I luv this forum such funny people!

abe is now! 03-10-2008 11:55 AM

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You good sir should be a scholar of science, you genius, you.

Stars die and they have no energy, black holes have a lot of energy! They attract everything it's near them. They seems to be black because they attract their light too!

Hobo 03-10-2008 12:38 PM

Honestly, this is a horrible thread and I would like nothing more than to close it.

abe is now! 03-10-2008 12:41 PM

Ok, but isn't what I told right?

Wings of Fire 03-10-2008 12:57 PM

Black holes appear black because the gravitational field around them is so strong they suck in anything containing light.

And as to your original statement a black hole is what happens when a massive star implodes due to gravitational collapse or two neutron stars collide with eachother. The term 'dead' is ambiguous in this sense.

Strike Witch 03-10-2008 01:15 PM

LOVE This thread.

Paul 03-10-2008 02:10 PM

Don't you guys have google? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole there, thats what a black hole is.

Mojo 03-10-2008 02:26 PM

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I said it was a star a collapsed star that is. But still collaps stars or black holes are still huge and enormous when compared to the size of the earth.

I think the science community is smoking something because this theory is way out there.

Actually, most "close" black holes are relatively small. Since they form because of the high gravitational fields generated by a collapsing star, they keep collapsing till they reach a certain radius, after which (when they cross that certain radius) the star will become a black hole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius

Read, and you'll find that if Sol should collapse, it could become a black hole with a radius of less than 3 kms.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_h...2no_hair.22.3F
Singularity at a single point

According to general relativity, a black hole's mass is entirely compressed into a region with zero volume, which means its density and gravitational pull are infinite, and so is the curvature of space-time that it causes. These infinite values cause most physical equations, including those of general relativity, to stop working at the center of a black hole. So physicists call the zero-volume, infinitely dense region at the center of a black hole a singularity.


So here you have a volumeless mass. no volume = no radius, thus very small :P.


And (I had to laugh when I read this):


High-energy particle accelerators, such as the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), if certain non-standard assumptions are correct (typically, an assumption of large extra-dimentions). However, any black holes produced in such a manner will evaporate practically instantaneously if Hawking Radiation works as predicted, thus posing no danger to Earth.



Lol... IF it works? So if Hawkings is wrong, we're dead? Lulz!

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Black holes appear black because the gravitational field around them is so strong they suck in anything containing light.

And as to your original statement a black hole is what happens when a massive star implodes due to gravitational collapse or two neutron stars collide with eachother. The term 'dead' is ambiguous in this sense.

Wouldn't it be coloured reddish, due to the constant effect of the Redshift phenomenon? I mean, a black hole keeps sucking in matter, and that matter will change colour, seen from the outside. It'll change towards the red side of the spectrum, and then dissapear. At the same time, another piece of matter enters the gravitational pull, thus starting that cycle again...

EDIT: And look what I found on the Pulsar wiki:

The first radio pulsar, CP 1919 (now known as PSR 1919+21), with a pulse period of 1.337 seconds and a pulse width of 0.04 second, was discovered in 1967 (Nature 217:709-713, 1968). A drawing of this pulsar's radio waves was used as the cover of British rock band Joy Division's debut album, Unknown Pleasures.


That's one hell of a star :P.

Wings of Fire 03-10-2008 02:48 PM

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Wouldn't it be coloured reddish, due to the constant effect of the Redshift phenomenon? I mean, a black hole keeps sucking in matter, and that matter will change colour, seen from the outside. It'll change towards the red side of the spectrum, and then dissapear. At the same time, another piece of matter enters the gravitational pull, thus starting that cycle again...
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the reason why red shift doesn't visibly occur is because black holes are stationary and thus any matter that can, in any way, be pulled into their gravitational field already has (Note in all pictures of black holes they have a spherical vacuum area, not a trail). Seeing as black holes don't expand as things get sucked into them the black hole can suck nothing more in so the area is devoid of colour and light because it is devoid of matter. Each piece of orbital rock picked up by the hole would certainly not be big enough to change the colour of the vacuum but instead appear as a red blip for a fraction of a second before it is engulfed.

Now i wait for BM to prove me wrong :).
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Don't you guys have google? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole there, thats what a black hole is.
Any amount of dedicated research > Wikipedia.

Paul 03-10-2008 03:01 PM

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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the reason why red shift doesn't visibly occur is because black holes are stationary and thus any matter that can, in any way, be pulled into their gravitational field already has (Note in all pictures of black holes they have a spherical vacuum area, not a trail). Seeing as black holes don't expand as things get sucked into them the black hole can suck nothing more in so the area is devoid of colour and light because it is devoid of matter. Each piece of orbital rock picked up by the hole would certainly not be big enough to change the colour of the vacuum but instead appear as a red blip for a fraction of a second before it is engulfed.

Now i wait for BM to prove me wrong :).
Any amount of dedicated research > Wikipedia.

Wikipedia > You

Wings of Fire 03-10-2008 03:11 PM

Shit me. Could there be any point in critical thinking and scientific advancements as long as we have Wikipedia?

I have an account on Wikipedia, I could log on and make that black hole page look like coswallop in 5 mins and this is why me + any other free thinking human being > Wikipedia.

Bullet Magnet 03-10-2008 06:49 PM

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I said it was a star a collapsed star that is. But still collaps stars or black holes are still huge and enormous when compared to the size of the earth.

I think the science community is smoking something because this theory is way out there.

While it is quite possible that parts of the science community are on weed (as Carl Sagan was), they certainly are not responsible for the "theory" (and I use the word lightly) that there is a black hole in the Atlantic ocean. One would have thought that the continued presence of water in the ocean and air in the atmosphere would have persuaded everyone here that there is no black hole on Earth.

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Shit me. Could there be any point in critical thinking and scientific advancements as long as we have Wikipedia?

I have an account on Wikipedia, I could log on and make that black hole page look like coswallop in 5 mins and this is why me + any other free thinking human being > Wikipedia.

There are always the all-important yet often-overlooked references and the bottom of the page.

Strike Witch 03-10-2008 09:18 PM

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Shit me. Could there be any point in critical thinking and scientific advancements as long as we have Wikipedia?

I have an account on Wikipedia, I could log on and make that black hole page look like coswallop in 5 mins and this is why me + any other free thinking human being > Wikipedia.

And then the rest of the nerdy free-thinking human beings watching wikipedia like a hawk jump on, edit it back, and ban your sorry arse.

Wikipedia IS people.

Leto 03-10-2008 10:20 PM

Answer to the original question:

Yes, yes it is.

Havoc 03-11-2008 07:17 AM

What moron thought up that theory?

Strange disappearances can be attributed to it being harder to navigate in that part of the world, pilots have told stories about their equipment being faulty over a certain part of the triangle. It's assumed it has something to do with the weather and magnetic interfernace or something.

Bullet Magnet 03-11-2008 11:29 AM

Equipment breaks down anywhere. I don't see how the triangle is any more notorious for that.

Mac Sirloin 03-11-2008 03:40 PM

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Black holes are stars. They cannot be in the world.

I can't even explain the sheer amount of raw science in this statement.

Bullet Magnet 03-12-2008 01:34 AM

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Wouldn't it be coloured reddish, due to the constant effect of the Redshift phenomenon? I mean, a black hole keeps sucking in matter, and that matter will change colour, seen from the outside. It'll change towards the red side of the spectrum, and then dissapear. At the same time, another piece of matter enters the gravitational pull, thus starting that cycle again...

Actually, yes. Quasars, which are swirling disks of hot gas, plasma and other spacial detritus, are thought to contain a black hole in the center. I'm not sure that you can see this far into it, but the gas closer to the black hole itself would take on a reddish hue on account of the light waves becoming elongated due to gravity.


To put it more simply, astronauts turn red as they fall in.

Mac Sirloin 03-12-2008 07:48 AM

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