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MA 11-25-2007 06:34 AM

Discuss Fishing & 'Rough' Shooting here.
 
Talk about the best tackle to use, brag about the biggest fish you caught, and also receive advice on Fishing and 'Rough' Shooting.

NO SPAM!

metroixer 11-25-2007 08:21 AM

Well I do want to be a fisherman as I get older for possibly 3 years or so. I want to own my own boat and everything, but right now I got nothing >_>.

Laser 11-25-2007 08:39 AM

fishing is the most boring thing of my life

btw what is "rough" shooting? is it shooting but "rough"?

Mac Sirloin 11-25-2007 09:21 AM

I caught a Ceolocanth with my little finger once.

OANST 11-25-2007 09:47 AM

I caught Herpes. What? Wrong thread? Oh.

abe is now! 11-25-2007 09:50 AM

I am a fisherman: I often fish in Italian's torrents (they are fantastics, but the last flood ruined them) and I fish a lot of fish!!! My favourite are the graylings and the brown trouts. I hate the salmon trouts: in Italy they live in the lakes and they are combative like the brown trouts. I also like fishing in the sea.

skillya_glowi 11-25-2007 10:50 AM

My mum fishes. Dunno why. I find it OK once in a while, but we haven't gone fishing since about a year ago.
She caught a shark once, a small one. It was tasty...
But mostly all we get off the Oceanside pier are mackerels. Last time we went fishing, we must've caught at least sixty.

Jordan 11-25-2007 12:02 PM

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My mum fishes. Dunno why. I find it OK once in a while, but we haven't gone fishing since about a year ago.
She caught a shark once, a small one. It was tasty...
But mostly all we get off the Oceanside pier are mackerels. Last time we went fishing, we must've caught at least sixty.

Is it actually legal to eat caught fish over there?

Bullet Magnet 11-25-2007 02:20 PM

I occasionally catch fish on the local research vessel Callista, mostly as by-catch. Because of the speed of ascent, they explode. Not exactly popping, but their organs expand such that their intestines are bulging from their vents, so will not survive for long. We usually turn them into feed for the various fish and invertebrates we're currently studying in the aquarium.

MA 11-25-2007 02:32 PM

sorry it took so long to reply.
 
before i answer any questions, i wish to apolagise to any members who i may of insulted in previous posts throughout these forums. i was crude and immature, and you have my word i will never ever be doing it again.
back to topic;

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Well I do want to be a fisherman as I get older for possibly 3 years or so. I want to own my own boat and everything, but right now I got nothing >_>.

everyone has to start someplace, i first started fishing with my grandad at 5 years old!! so if a 5 year old can do it, you certainly can!

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fishing is the most boring thing of my life

btw what is "rough" shooting? is it shooting but "rough"?

'rough' shooting is a country sport where you shoot pests for sport (humanely ofcoarse) in an unspecified area (like a farm, a friends stables, fields of crops, maybe even someones big garden, with permission), and consists of shooting pigeons, rats, and rabbits mainly. if you shot a duck (in shooting season, otherwise its illegal) for example, you would not be 'rough' shooting but 'small game' shooting, 'rough' i would assume stands for rough terrain. this sport can be done using shotguns, air rifles, and small rim-fire rifles, anything bigger, and you'd probably be 'hunting'.

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I caught a Ceolocanth with my little finger once.

im puzzled, what is a Ceolocanth?

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My mum fishes. Dunno why. I find it OK once in a while, but we haven't gone fishing since about a year ago.
She caught a shark once, a small one. It was tasty...
But mostly all we get off the Oceanside pier are mackerels. Last time we went fishing, we must've caught at least sixty.

what shark was it? a beagle shark?

MA 11-25-2007 02:36 PM

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I occasionally catch fish on the local research vessel Callista, mostly as by-catch. Because of the speed of ascent, they explode. Not exactly popping, but their organs expand such that their intestines are bulging from their vents, so will not survive for long. We usually turn them into feed for the various fish and invertebrates we're currently studying in the aquarium.

sorry about double posting, but this fascinates me. what do you do exactly?

Nate 11-25-2007 02:42 PM

molluck's assistant, please use the Edit button in the future to add to posts rather than double-posting.

Bullet Magnet 11-25-2007 03:17 PM

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this fascinates me. what do you do exactly?

I study marine biology with oceanography. University student.

metroixer 11-25-2007 04:46 PM

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im puzzled, what is a Ceolocanth?

A coelocanth is a sort of "Living-fossil". From what I heard it's a type of fish that has survived for millions of years or so. I might be wrong though.

Here's a neat picture of one, not sure if it's dead and out of water or a sculpture though :/.

http://www.abdn.ac.uk/zoologymuseum/...coelacanth.jpg

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm pretty sure It's alive and underwater XD.

Bullet Magnet 11-25-2007 08:00 PM

No, it is one of two modern species not represented by the fossil record. It is called a "living fossil" because no fossils representing the Coelacanthiformes have been found in rocks from the end of the Cretaceous to the present, and before the discovery of living representatives were thought to be outright extinct. All of the fossil species are extinct, but descriptions such as "living fossil" can and do mislead people into thinking that they are an ancient species that have not evolved.

That picture is either a model or a preserved specimen, no way can a shot like that be made of a living animal.

Strike Witch 11-25-2007 08:44 PM

Never try Australian barramundi. It's watery and oily and tastes like crap.

moxco 11-25-2007 09:07 PM

I've caught a 18" Bass before. I didn't really like the taste of it.

Zerox 11-25-2007 10:03 PM

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No, it is one of two modern species not represented by the fossil record. It is called a "living fossil" because no fossils representing the Coelacanthiformes have been found in rocks from the end of the Cretaceous to the present, and before the discovery of living representatives were thought to be outright extinct. All of the fossil species are extinct, but descriptions such as "living fossil" can and do mislead people into thinking that they are an ancient species that have not evolved.

That picture is either a model or a preserved specimen, no way can a shot like that be made of a living animal.

I thought it meant a species that has changed relatively little over a very long period of time, like Tuataras. Or am I wrong as well?

I haven't been able to fishing often, but I've caught a couple of Pike, among other things.

Jordan 11-25-2007 10:19 PM

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A coelocanth is a sort of "Living-fossil". From what I heard it's a type of fish that has survived for millions of years or so. I might be wrong though.

Here's a neat picture of one, not sure if it's dead and out of water or a sculpture though :/.

http://www.abdn.ac.uk/zoologymuseum/...coelacanth.jpg

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm pretty sure It's alive and underwater XD.

It's creepy how that reminds me of a Pokémon...

MA 11-26-2007 02:55 AM

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It's creepy how that reminds me of a Pokémon...

quite true...maybe magicarp. oh dear, i know too much pokemon!

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I've caught a 18" Bass before. I didn't really like the taste of it.

really? well each to their own. i heard its one of the best fish to eat, but then again i dont like cod. i think its tasteless and over rated (also over fished), but haddock, on the other hand, is a different kettle of fish (excuse the pun).

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Never try Australian barramundi. It's watery and oily and tastes like crap.

i will remember that. Austarlia does seem to have the most 'bizarre' fish in the world.

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A coelocanth is a sort of "Living-fossil". From what I heard it's a type of fish that has survived for millions of years or so. I might be wrong though.

Here's a neat picture of one, not sure if it's dead and out of water or a sculpture though :/.

http://www.abdn.ac.uk/zoologymuseum/...coelacanth.jpg

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm pretty sure It's alive and underwater XD.

bloody good picture there!

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I study marine biology with oceanography. University student.

i think you should take over this thread!

...no...dont, please. lol
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Havoc 11-26-2007 03:51 AM

I never got what pulls people into fishing (pun, ha ha). Sitting at the water with a fishing rod, doing next to nothing for a few hours? I do not see the fun in that.

Oddey 11-26-2007 05:46 AM

Well I've gone fishing a few times and I only caught a fish like twice. I always put them back unless I'm fishing at a fish farm. My favourite fish (so far) is salmon for sure. Sure it's boring but when the fish bites that is pretty exciting. And your not necsesarily sitting and waiting. You might be using a spinner and then you'll have to pull it in slowly. Or you might be fly fishing (Never tryed that).
What is the difference between rough shooting and hunting other than using a small gun. I for one detest hunting. Shoot a fly instead. If you can.

MA 11-26-2007 07:46 AM

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Well I've gone fishing a few times and I only caught a fish like twice. I always put them back unless I'm fishing at a fish farm. My favourite fish (so far) is salmon for sure. Sure it's boring but when the fish bites that is pretty exciting. And your not necsesarily sitting and waiting. You might be using a spinner and then you'll have to pull it in slowly. Or you might be fly fishing (Never tryed that).
What is the difference between rough shooting and hunting other than using a small gun. I for one detest hunting. Shoot a fly instead. If you can.

the other difference between 'rough' shooting and 'hunting' is that in 'rough' shooting, you get whatever you find as long as its classed as vermin or pests.
'hunting' is where you literally hunt or wait for a specific big game like deer. but i have never taken part in 'hunting' and i never will for as long as i live. to kill something so big and beautifull seems a crime, and there not classed as pests anyway! also fox hunting really winds me up, because its just damn cruel!

i do take part in 'rough' shooting from time to time on the farm, but strictly for pest control. and i have plenty of experience so they are killed quickly and humanely. its not fun, its pest control and a sport.

do not think of me as a barbaric 'heathen', and its kinder than poison (which makes them very ill before they die), this way they are dead before they know whats happened.

this thread is not meant to offend, and is not for testosterone fueled lunatic hillbillies, its a discussion on country sports in general, providing tips and info.

Laser 11-26-2007 08:43 AM

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'rough' shooting is a country sport where you shoot pests for sport (humanely ofcoarse) in an unspecified area (like a farm, a friends stables, fields of crops, maybe even someones big garden, with permission), and consists of shooting pigeons, rats, and rabbits mainly
how come they are pests?

to be honest you are kinda a pest with all this double posting so should i go and try and "rough" shoot you?

Zerox 11-26-2007 09:19 AM

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It's creepy how that reminds me of a Pokémon...

Relicanth, anyone?

That pic looks kinda fake to me. The lighting. That is not a photo of a real fish. And the background's kinda screwy and pixellated in comparison to the fish. The fins also look too thick. I'd say model+fake/added on background.

moxco 11-26-2007 09:26 AM

http://www.abdn.ac.uk/zoologymuseum/...coelacanth.jpg

http://content.answers.com/main/cont.../Relicanth.png

Yes they do look very similar.

Bullet Magnet 11-26-2007 09:38 AM

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I thought it meant a species that has changed relatively little over a very long period of time, like Tuataras. Or am I wrong as well?

Coelacanths are a Lazarus Taxon, not a living fossil.

Well, here's one of the modern species, Latimeria spp.

And three extinct species, Macropomoides orientalis, late Cretaceous; Rhabdoderma elegans, late Carboniferous; Allenypterus montanus, early Carboniferous; linky (Clack, 2002)

Tuataras, like coelacanths they have two extant species of the same genus, and underwent significant differentiation in the mesozoic.

The photo is either not real or not living. They live in very deep water and die at the surface, and cannot be kept in captivity.


Voodoo Hand 11-26-2007 09:45 AM

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this thread is not meant to offend, and is not for testosterone fueled lunatic hillbillies, its a discussion on country sports in general, providing tips and info.

I did not know you had hillbillies in England.

Noticed that the photo of the Coelacanth does not cast much of a shadow in relation to the very bright light, very odd.

Bullet Magnet 11-26-2007 11:44 AM

It does, the shadow is behind. Camera flash.

Disgruntled Intern 11-26-2007 01:56 PM

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the other difference between 'rough' shooting and 'hunting' is that in 'rough' shooting, you get whatever you find as long as its classed as vermin or pests.
'hunting' is where you literally hunt or wait for a specific big game like deer. but i have never taken part in 'hunting' and i never will for as long as i live. to kill something so big and beautifull seems a crime, and there not classed as pests anyway!




Many people in Texas kill deer because of over population. If they don't get a bullet through the heart, they'll starve to death.