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Patrick Vykkers 06-30-2007 07:51 PM

Religion of Peace Strikes Again in MY home country!
 
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/...w_Airport&only

To quote the Bible;
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:20

I think we can all agree the tree of Islam is a rotten one. Be we atheist, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, agnostic, Wiccan, Asatru, or Pastafarian, we can all agree... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Fortesque13 06-30-2007 08:00 PM

Why doesn't this suprise me? Because it's the usual mumbo-jumbo that happens all around! The world is getting all-out crappy because of religion and people are gonna swim in all that shit once the moment comes. And I won't be there because I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING! Actually most of us didn't do anything! But we have to take shit from people like these!

Nate 06-30-2007 11:07 PM

I'm yet to see any proof that this is Islamic Terrorism. Given that the only people involved were apparently Asian, this could just be the Aum Sect. Or maybe the IRA have loosened their entry requirements.

looney-bin 06-30-2007 11:17 PM

It'd be quite funny if these 2 people weren't part of the carbomb thing and they were like "WTF? That was OUR idea! Screw it. Get the jeep and we'll drive it into an airport."

Infact, the whole thing was sort of humorous, considering they failed at their task, got set on fire because of it, and got arrested.

used:) 07-01-2007 04:53 AM

I have to say, I'm in quite a bind with the situation of things. I also saw something on the news about Muslim groups imposing their will in London or something. It's these kinds of actions that will make me prejudiced against the muslims. Do you know if there were any casualties?

Anyway, my heart goes out to you and your country and their perseverance through all of the attacks throughout the past few years.

Whatever happened to white Americans always being the bad guys?

Hobo 07-01-2007 09:48 AM

He was on fire, that made me laugh for 10 minutes.



And then i found out he was a terrorist.

That is a true story.

Venks 07-01-2007 10:20 AM

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http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/...w_Airport&only

To quote the Bible;
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:20

I think we can all agree the tree of Islam is a rotten one. Be we atheist, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, agnostic, Wiccan, Asatru, or Pastafarian, we can all agree... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

How dare you try to belittle Islam due to terrorist attacks.
Why not blame Christianity for all acts of pedophilia.

used:) 07-01-2007 10:44 AM

Did you read my post? There are Muslims groups in London insisting that Catholics follow Sharia. When you're the immigrant, you generally shouldn't try and make the country that let you in bow down to your culture.

I'm not saying that all Muslims are bad, I lived next to a family of Muslims during my childhood, but in any religion or organization in general, there will be the bad apples.

looney-bin 07-01-2007 12:15 PM

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How dare you try to belittle Islam due to terrorist attacks.
Why not blame Christianity for all acts of pedophilia.

OH IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY TO HAVE A GO AT CHRISTIANS DUE TO THE HABBITS OF THE EXTREMESTS, BUT HEAVEN FORBID WE HAVE A GO AT MUSLIMS BECAUSE OF THEIR EXTREMESTS. >_>

Patrick Vykkers 07-01-2007 02:35 PM

Because Islam is a violent cult that quite frankly even an atheist, if he saw it's history, would describe as satanic. 100 million Hindu's and Buddhist's killed in the Hindu Holocaust. That's equal to Mao, twice as many as Stalin, and 5 times as many as Hitler. It's leader was a pedophile according to it's own scriptures (if marrying a 6 year old and raping her at 9 isn't pedophilia, I don't know what is). Read my signature. How many Christian terrorists attacks can you name in the last 6 years since 9/11? Do Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and James Dobson call for mass murder of non Christians? Do you see Ned Flanders-types flying planes into buildings? Does the 700 Club or other fundie programme feature programs where children are asked if they hate atheists or gays?

Islamophobia is rational. It's like Satanophobia, evilophobia, pedophiliaphobia, naziphobia. It's a rational fear against evil.

Fortesque13 07-01-2007 02:40 PM

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How dare you try to belittle Islam due to terrorist attacks.
Why not blame Christianity for all acts of pedophilia.

Oh, come on! You just blame Patrick's religion cause he's a Christian. Every religion is just religion! It's the people that follow that religion and do shit that gives it such a bad name!

Nate 07-01-2007 04:21 PM

/me sighs at the generaly stupidity of the population.

Venks wasn't saying anything negative about Christianity. He was saying that criticising all of Islam because of a few bad eggs is just as ridiculous as if you would criticise all of Christianity because of their bad eggs.

Fortesque13 07-01-2007 04:35 PM

Ok, ok, I think I got the post wrong...

So what's with people blaming religions anyway? No religion is perfect, so nobody should flame any other.

Daxter King 07-01-2007 04:35 PM

From what I understand, you go into heaven if you die while killing infidels, sounds pretty violent to me. Ofcourse, I could of been mis taught.

Patrick Vykkers 07-01-2007 06:23 PM

Few bad eggs my ass.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl..._You_Dead&only

looney-bin 07-02-2007 01:48 AM

Islam is not a cult (unlike a certain group that believes in things called theatens and Xenu), and there's no reason to blame all muslims for bombings because of a minority. It's like grouping all Christians together as complete and utter nutjobs who protests the smallest things just because of a minority.

And no Daxter, even if you're muslim and if you blow yourself up , you will still go to Hell for cheating God's test and murdering innocent people. It's just the exemests think they'll get into heaven for being terrorists because they're mentally unstable and don't look at their holy book properly.

Hobo 07-02-2007 02:05 AM

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Because Islam is a violent cult that quite frankly even an atheist, if he saw it's history, would describe as satanic. 100 million Hindu's and Buddhist's killed in the Hindu Holocaust. That's equal to Mao, twice as many as Stalin, and 5 times as many as Hitler. It's leader was a pedophile according to it's own scriptures (if marrying a 6 year old and raping her at 9 isn't pedophilia, I don't know what is). Read my signature. How many Christian terrorists attacks can you name in the last 6 years since 9/11? Do Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and James Dobson call for mass murder of non Christians? Do you see Ned Flanders-types flying planes into buildings? Does the 700 Club or other fundie programme feature programs where children are asked if they hate atheists or gays?

Islamophobia is rational. It's like Satanophobia, evilophobia, pedophiliaphobia, naziphobia. It's a rational fear against evil.

Racist = you

Patrick Vykkers 07-02-2007 03:29 AM

Islam is not a race. Name calling may be fine in the sandpit , but it's not in grown up speak.

Stupid=You. See, I can play kindy games too.

Bullet Magnet 07-02-2007 08:40 AM

Patrick, take a moment to examine the world around you from outside of your owl fishbowl. Some terrible things have been done in the name of Islam (and in the name of everything else ever conceived) and yet there are still devout believers who stand against all that, and have to defend their religion against the terrorists and war criminals who shame them, and those like you who paint them all with the same brush because of them. Ask yourself- why do they do that?

It's because they believe that there is something worth defending in their faith. Please, please please, for a nonspecific deity's sake, try looking at it from an angle other than your own. Examine the beauty in it, what is good, rather than simply condemning it.

To view the world in black and white is as bad a philosophy as that which you see in that black.

Zerox 07-02-2007 12:03 PM

Lol whole thing BS and stupid and pintless morinicity etc. etc.

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OH IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY TO HAVE A GO AT CHRISTIANS DUE TO THE HABBITS OF THE EXTREMESTS, BUT HEAVEN FORBID WE HAVE A GO AT MUSLIMS BECAUSE OF THEIR EXTREMESTS. >_>

YOU PHAIL. Christians are fairly normal. Catholics are the extremist 'Gays must burn, Muslims should be shot' etc. etc. retards. Catholic isn't even a religion, it's just the Christians who are f*cktards and make up pointless c*ap to explain about etc. etc.

Patrick Vykkers 07-02-2007 03:23 PM

"Patrick, take a moment to examine the world around you from outside of your owl fishbowl. Some terrible things have been done in the name of Islam (and in the name of everything else ever conceived)"
Tell me when Christians start flying planes into buildings, sparky, and then we'll talk. Your "owl fishbowl" is pure projecting. You're the one who's been feed bullshit by the dhimmedia about Islam being a religion of peace and tolerance and love and all the nasty extremists stirred up by the evil West (the culture which gave you and me the Oddworld games, human rights, freedom of speech, and virtually all cultural advancements since 1800.
"and yet there are still devout believers who stand against all that, and have to defend their religion against the terrorists and war criminals who shame them, and those like you who paint them all with the same brush because of them."
BOOHOO! I'M A BIG MEANIE BRUSH MAN! WAAAA!
(http://www.spectator.co.uk/article_pfv.php?id=6421)
"Ask yourself- why do they do that?"
Because they feel embarrased that their faith and a significant minority to large majority are totally batshit nuts.

"It's because they believe that there is something worth defending in their faith. Please, please please, for a nonspecific deity's sake, try looking at it from an angle other than your own. Examine the beauty in it, what is good, rather than simply condemning it."
I suppose I should look at the beauty of NAMBA too? The beauty of the Church of Satan? Virtually all good in Islam was lifted from other religions.

"To view the world in black and white is as bad a philosophy as that which you see in that black."
Asking a religious believer to not see things in black and white is like asking a smoker to stop smoking.

Also, Zerox, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Jack Chick, infanticide clinic bombers, Fred Phelps, James Dobson, Jim Robinson (Freerepublic guy) are all Protestants. Mother Theresa, St Augustine, Pope John Paul II, Pope Benedict XVI, are all Catholics. Catholics do not believe gays must burn or Muslims should be shot. That's a total strawman.

Nate 07-02-2007 04:55 PM

You mean it would be a healthier option that could extend their life?

Patrick Vykkers 07-02-2007 05:23 PM

OK, poor choice of analogy. It's like asking an atheist to believe in absolute morality.

Venks 07-02-2007 06:52 PM

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Because Islam is a violent cult that quite frankly even an atheist, if he saw it's history, would describe as satanic. 100 million Hindu's and Buddhist's killed in the Hindu Holocaust.

I'm an atheist and I wouldn't describe them as satanic even upon knowing their history.

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I suppose I should look at the beauty of NAMBA too? The beauty of the Church of Satan? Virtually all good in Islam was lifted from other religions.

No. Try to look for the beauty of Islam as asked before.
All good from Islam was lifted from other religions? How so?
I might be doing the same good things as my neighbor, but that doesn't mean I copied him.

Oh yea by the way... *coughcough*CRUSADES*coughcough*

Patrick Vykkers 07-02-2007 07:58 PM

http://lex-luthor.ytmnd.com/

Explain to me the difference between NAMBLA, the Church of Satan, and Islam. Looking at the "good" in it doesn't eliminate the fact it's founder was a pedophile, it's fictional god a self described deceiver, and it's texts are 3 times more violent than the Bible. It also has a history far more violent than Christianity or Judaism's.
THE CRUSADES WERE DEFENSIVE;
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...D=17893%20

ZANGG 07-02-2007 08:18 PM

This is why all religion should be abolished. Even though it has it's good points, people abuse it and in the end it causes this sort of shit to happen. All for something that may not even be true.

Fortesque13 07-02-2007 08:26 PM

Indeed, it looks like Patrick's gonna set off a Vykkerade against all muslims...
Lemme just tell you something in your face:"RELIGION IS MADE UP BY HUMANS!"
That should teach him...
Nah, I'm just using this to provoke you and see your reaction...

used:) 07-02-2007 08:38 PM

Ugh, this has turned into what the cynical part of me thought it would. I don't mean to flip sides so suddenly, but Patrick, have you ever been in the same environment of Muslims for an extended time at all in your life?

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This is why all religion should be abolished. Even though it has it's good points, people abuse it and in the end it causes this sort of shit to happen. All for something that may not even be true.

Yup, same goes for politics, philosophy, or any other kind of method for life. Let's abolish them too.


Oh, and would people please stop putting in these little size 2 ending lines in their posts? It's rather annoying.

looney-bin 07-03-2007 12:06 AM

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This is why all religion should be abolished. Even though it has it's good points, people abuse it and in the end it causes this sort of shit to happen. All for something that may not even be true.

World Wars 1 and 2, and many other wars were NOT caused by religion, just conflict of opinions. Also, may I direct you to South Park episodes "Red Hot Catholic Love", "Go God Go", "Go God Go XII", and "All About the Mormons?"

Also, may I ask those arguing about religion in general to shut the f*ck up? No religion brings out a bad side, it's the upbringing of said person that causes them to act violently. The BNP don't really have a religion, and look at them. It's like Jack Thompson blaming GTA for the Columbine shootings. The item being blamed is merely an excuse when it shouldn't be.

Patrick Vykkers 07-03-2007 02:45 AM

You deny the most violent religion in the world has inspired the vast majority of international terrorists, who claim it as their faith and practice it consistenly in accordance with tradition and history?