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Slaveless 06-05-2007 03:28 PM

Population geography
 
There is not an exact known number of Mudokons that have been born into slavery. I would have to guess around millions, since it has been clear that Mudokons are used in facilities for very short periods of time. By that I mean maybe a number of years.

Nate 06-05-2007 05:03 PM

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1. There is not an exact known number of Mudokons that have been born into slavery. I would have to guess around millions, since it has been clear that Mudokons are used in facilities for very short periods of time.

I doubt the number of mudokons is that high. Mudos is actually a small continent - I remember Lorne comparing it to a European country once, but I forget which one - and the Glukkon industries are not spread across its entirety. After all, there was nothing of the sort in the Western Mudos of SW.

Slaveless 06-05-2007 05:24 PM

I didn't really mean that is the number of the population for Mudokons. I meant like how many Mudokons over all were born into slavery. Which would be quite high.

Yet, wouldn't the population of Mudokons be around maybe 1 million? I mean, Mudokons don't necessarily all work in Mudos, and I'm pretty sure there is a lot more facilities that we haven't seen yet.

Bullet Magnet 06-06-2007 04:01 AM

One million is a very small population figure for a sapient species. Human cities frequently exceed that figure by themselves.

The Oddworld globe on the map depicts Mudos as an absolutely massive landmass.

Wil 06-06-2007 04:51 AM

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Mudos is actually a small continent - I remember Lorne comparing it to a European country once, but I forget which one.

It was either Nicaragua or Nigeria. On OWF, Danny quotes it as Nigeria in early 2002, but in late 2004 Lorne said that if Abe is in Nicaragua, Stranger is in Australia. That makes no geographic sense given the dimensions of Mudos, but it makes me think the original size comparison was with Nicaragua, and Danny misquoted.

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Yet, wouldn't the population of Mudokons be around maybe 1 million? I mean, Mudokons don't necessarily all work in Mudos, and I'm pretty sure there is a lot more facilities that we haven't seen yet.

The Quintology will leave Mudos. Mudos may originally have been defined by the Mudokon population, but since then I expect they will have naturally and by industrial intervention, spread beyond its borders.

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One million is a very small population figure for a sapient species. Human cities frequently exceed that figure by themselves.

True, but there are tribal human cultures that are a lot smaller than Earth’s great cities, and are a lot similar to current Mudokons in terms of technology, lifestyle, and oppression. Also, since there are multiple sapient races on Oddworld, they can share their social advancements as though a collective, despite being separate species of lower numbers.

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The Oddworld globe on the map depicts Mudos as an absolutely massive landmass.

True, but the map was created by Rob Brown who admits his maps are as much spiritual and reflective of personality as they are physically accurate. There are hints that Mudos has been promoted in terms of geographical size and importance, but until there’s any conclusive evidence, I will go with the physical area quoted by the creator of Oddworld. :)

Zerox 06-06-2007 08:36 AM

We don't know that Mudokons live only in Mudos, though that would presumably be a stronghold or where they originated or something.

Mudokon numbers must be higher. Though you say that it could be fairly accurate, I would think it would be much higher, given their planet is 10 times the size of Earth, in equivalent speaking that would be an even smaller number, so yeah.

Nate 06-06-2007 04:53 PM

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Mudokon numbers must be higher. Though you say that it could be fairly accurate, I would think it would be much higher, given their planet is 10 times the size of Earth, in equivalent speaking that would be an even smaller number, so yeah.

There's no point speculating about life outside of Mudos so we can't comment on overall population numbers. The human population of Nicaragua is only 5.6 million. When you take into account that muds are not the only sapient species in Mudos and are certainly not dominant, it is highly unlikely that there are as many as one million of them.

Bullet Magnet 06-07-2007 08:26 AM

This isn't shaping up to be good for the mudokons. I'm reclassifying them from Conservation Dependant to Threatened until further notice.

Venks 06-07-2007 08:50 AM

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There's no point speculating about life outside of Mudos so we can't comment on overall population numbers. The human population of Nicaragua is only 5.6 million. When you take into account that muds are not the only sapient species in Mudos and are certainly not dominant, it is highly unlikely that there are as many as one million of them.

Just becuase they are slaves doesn't mean Mudokons are not dominant in Mudos. Just think back to slavery in America, plantation owners may of been politically and economically more powerful then their slaves, but they were greatly out numbered.