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Fortesque13 04-12-2007 08:11 PM

Will mankind wipe itself out?
 
Well, I was just reading about judgement day or something here on the forums and came up with this... Do you think that mankind will wipe itself out?(It probably will happen) Those stupid, meager, puny little humas have started playing around too much! There might be a high probability that humans won't even exist anymore soon. I'd say:"This world is headed straight to hell and, unfortunately, I'm going with it! And I didn't even do anything wrong..." Fact is that the fate of millions of people in the world are like this just cause of some lame-ass guys that feel boring and have an urge to start a war!(e.g. George W. Bush)

I just wanted to see if you feel the same way...

Patrick Vykkers 04-12-2007 10:31 PM

Bush didn't start the war all by himself, y'know? It started with faulty reports by CIA operatives in Iraq. But on the human issue, I su-pport such a self ex-ter-min-ation of humans.
EDIT: Also, as an apparent believer in the paranormal, what are you doing today?

Havoc 04-13-2007 03:06 AM

Short answer: Yes.

Havoc

Strike Witch 04-13-2007 03:18 AM

God I hope so.

Furries inherit the earth!

Fluid 04-13-2007 04:14 AM

Nope. We gonna have lack of food, clean water and staff like that...

Nemo 04-13-2007 05:08 AM

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Short answer: Yes.

Havoc

Second'd

Or maybe ten?

12345abe 04-13-2007 09:50 AM

Whaddaya think we think?
 
Of course-YES! Most humans are idiots,morons,imbeciles,etc.
People should be helping each other, not killing others, beating others, or annoying others!
Example of human stupidity number 1:Weapon makers.That's just idiotic
Example of human stupidity number 2:Stealing,killing,etc.That's just idiotic
Example of human stupidity number 3:Why did the humans invent that green piece of paper called money???We could more easily spread ourselves around and search for food and water, so we can share our winnings at the end!
Humans that have goals for the example1 and example2 actually have a goal to CRUSH the mankind (NOT kind)

Fluid 04-13-2007 12:31 PM

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Of course-YES! Most humans are idiots,morons,imbeciles,etc.
People should be helping each other, not killing others, beating others, or annoying others!
Example of human stupidity number 1:Weapon makers.That's just idiotic
Example of human stupidity number 2:Stealing,killing,etc.That's just idiotic
Example of human stupidity number 3:Why did the humans invent that green piece of paper called money???We could more easily spread ourselves around and search for food and water, so we can share our winnings at the end!
Humans that have goals for the example1 and example2 actually have a goal to CRUSH the mankind (NOT kind)

it's mother nature..

why animals kill eachother?
this example might be sick.. but whatever.

what do you think.. how many people on earth would be now if there where no WWII?

used:) 04-13-2007 12:40 PM

Maybe. I don't care though.

Fortesque13 04-13-2007 12:46 PM

More happy people... and a lot less elders taking credit for lines like:"I've been in war boy...", while actually they've been there for 5 minutes. Real persons who've been in war don't really go around bragging about it cuz they have some nasty memories.(i guess)
And who invented money in the first place!? Some guy who wanted it all for himself, that's sure! Besides, if there were no words like my or mine, there wouldn't be so much wars.
It all changed when people started using it...

As for paranormal... I've got a lot of stuff going on right now...
But maybe it's just me or is it really what it is...

BTW, that signature of yours cracks me up:"See the idiot, kill the idiot"
It was really funny seing it on that dumb thread I created at about 6 AM (been up all night...). Then I noticed what I was doing.

snuzi 04-13-2007 01:23 PM

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Of course-YES! Most humans are idiots,morons,imbeciles,etc.
People should be helping each other, not killing others, beating others, or annoying others!
Example of human stupidity number 1:Weapon makers.That's just idiotic
Example of human stupidity number 2:Stealing,killing,etc.That's just idiotic
Example of human stupidity number 3:Why did the humans invent that green piece of paper called money???We could more easily spread ourselves around and search for food and water, so we can share our winnings at the end!
Humans that have goals for the example1 and example2 actually have a goal to CRUSH the mankind (NOT kind)

Unfortunately, your arguement is completely unrealstic. Take into account the fact that we are all wired differently, and sometimes, the way we think and act causes conflicts. We're not all the same, and so conflicts always occur between us.

Now, allow me to respond to each of your examples, and tell you how they have nothing to do with human stupidity:

Exmaple 1: Humans create weapons to protect themselves. If a country were to, all of a sudden, stop producing weapons, and leave themselves completely defenseless, they would be invaded and conquered in no time flat. Plus, weapons keep many countries in line, and most of the time, keep the peace.

And I know what your retort will be: "But weapons kill people!". Not true. Ignorance, misunderstanding, vengeance, and justice kill people. The weapon is not dangerous unless a person wielding even one of those traits is the one with the weapon.

Example 2: This is perhaps the dumbest yet. Do you realize that certain people need to steal to survive? Not everyone is financially well-off. To the contrary, there is alot of poverty in the world. How are such people supposed to eat without stealing their food? Would you rather they all die?

Ugh, and I hate it when people say that killing cannot be justified, or in your case, projects stupidity. Killing is sometimes necessary. For example, would you prefer having Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler, or Jeffrey Dahmer alive rather than dead? Or if you were placed in a situation in which your life was threatened by another person, would you honestly allow the person to kill you? I doubt it. Especially if that someone took one of your loved ones away from you. Then you'd have a different opinion on killing. Trust me.

What's more, there are some people in those word that simply cannot help but kill. The shameless, conscienceless, psychopaths and sociopaths. They do not kill out of stupidity, but to feel a rush. Something to make them feel alive as we do. That isn't stupidity. It's a psychological disorder.

What's more, if no one killed anything, we'd die of starvation. Killing is in our nature. It's a means of survival, you dolt.

Eample 3: We created money so that people would work hard for their lifestyle and to obtain possessions. What you are suggesting is communism, my friend. It does not work. read a goddamn history textbook. What's more, it would be unfair to distribute everything equally. Why should someone who is lazy, and sits idly by recieve the same amount of food as someone who worked for it and earned it?

So you see, in attempting to prove that humanity is stupid, you instead proved that you are the one who is. You silly commie goose, you ;).

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it's mother nature..

why animals kill eachother?
this example might be sick.. but whatever.

what do you think.. how many people on earth would be now if there where no WWII?

I'm sorry but I have no idea what you wrote, or what your point was.

As for my opinion on whether or not we will wipe ourselves out in the end, I say we will. With all the conflicts we've had and wars we have fought in the past, they could only get worse and more destructive in the future.

Zerox 04-13-2007 01:31 PM

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Why should someone who is lazy, and sits idly by recieve the same amount of food as someone who worked for it and earned it?

*coughCOUNCILHOUSEScough*

And to answer the thread title: Most probably.

mitsur 04-13-2007 01:54 PM

God damnit, Snuzi, you took my whole argument. Curse you and your telepathic powers!

So, yeah. Snuzi basically typed everything I was going to.

And yes, eventually we will destroy ourselves. Hopefully, though, it'll be after I'm long-dead, so no skin off my back.

snuzi 04-13-2007 02:00 PM

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God damnit, Snuzi, you took my whole argument. Curse you and your telepathic powers!

So, yeah. Snuzi basically typed everything I was going to.

Sorry, dude. I just couldn't leave it alone. It was begging to be answered :p.

12345abe 04-13-2007 02:26 PM

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What's more, there are some people in those word that simply cannot help but kill. The shameless, conscienceless, psychopaths and sociopaths. They do not kill out of stupidity, but to feel a rush. Something to make them feel alive as we do. That isn't stupidity. It's a psychological disorder.

Why don't they just play games like quake or something??

snuzi 04-13-2007 02:34 PM

It's not the same. It doesn't give them the same thrill as murder does. You have to understand that thrills are all sociopaths live for. They are born risk-takers.

Cullen Heath 04-13-2007 02:51 PM

No, you're a damn fool if you think it's going to happen like that, and you don't consider what's going on with the actual earth itself right now. The earth is rapidly warming, and this is because of humans... so yeah, they're going to end up killing themselves, but it won't be because of war. And honestly, I'm looking forward to it.
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Ignorance, misunderstanding, vengeance, and justice kill people.

No, bullets kill people...duh.

snuzi 04-13-2007 02:58 PM

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No, you're a damn fool if you think it's going to happen like that, and you don't consider what's going on with the actual earth itself right now. The earth is rapidly warming, and this is because of humans... so yeah, they're going to end up killing themselves, but it won't be because of war. And honestly, I'm looking forward to it.

No, bullets kill people...duh.

You do realize that there's theories that suggest that the whole "Global Warming" thing is a natural occurance, right? And you do also realize that with all the conflicts on Earth, that there just might just be a war to end all wars, just over the horizon, right? Bearing that in mind, are you honestly going to sit here and tell me that the end of the world is going to be caused by the melting of the polar ice caps?

And metaphorically speaking, the emotions fueling the person who pulls the trigger are the ones that kill people.

Paramite of War 04-13-2007 03:11 PM

The second comming of jesus will come and the evil people can do as they please I wont really care :)

Havoc 04-13-2007 03:16 PM

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The second comming of jesus will come and the evil people can do as they please I wont really care :)

Yea well... Let me tell you about this shotgun I bought recently. I had it painted in gold and I'm keeping it loaded in an airtight bag in a big safe. So when the second coming of jezus finally happens, I can grab my golden shotgun and be the first to show him how modern technology works. Unfortunately I will accidentally have the barrel pointing to his face...

And with that statement, I say this. Religion will be the end of the human race at some point. Copy and paste that quote into a file and print it and keep it somewhere behind a bookshelf. Then when the human race is dying out and they find that piece of paper, they can go: Damn that was one smart guy, predicting this and all.

Havoc

snuzi 04-13-2007 03:17 PM

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The second comming of jesus will come and the evil people can do as they please I wont really care :)

Holy shit. Now you've done it.

Paramite of War 04-13-2007 03:18 PM

Wow, Havoc where the hell did that come from?!

snuzi 04-13-2007 03:19 PM

That's the beauty of the anti-religious things Havoc says. You never see them coming.

Havoc 04-13-2007 03:21 PM

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Wow, Havoc where the hell did that come from?!

What what?! I just thought it up. Don't act like I stole the idea or something :|.

@Snuzi: Yes, my arguments are pieces of beauty indeed. Thanks for recognizing it :).

Havoc

Patrick Vykkers 04-13-2007 03:47 PM

To quote Kane from Command and Conquer: You can't kill the Messiah.

Anyhoo, here's my list of mankind's mistakes;
1;Homophobia (Population control is important, people)
2;Birth-control-o-phobia (See above)
3;Islam (see my sig, Jihad Watch, and Dhimmi Watch)
4;Southern Baptism (see the South in America)
5;Jack Chick's parents doing it (self explanatory)
6;The UN (someone evidently didn't learn from what happened to the League of Nations)
7;The Guardian (self explanatory)
8;The BBC's neutrality charter (Golden Mean Fallacy ahoy)
9;Moral equivilationism (The result of a moral compass made while drunk, reading 100 Chomsky books, and with 15 centimetre thick blinders on)
10;Legalizing abortion (So sue me, liberals. Infanticide is bad, m'kay?)

Havoc 04-13-2007 03:50 PM

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To quote Kane from Command and Conquer: You can't kill the Messiah.

Damnit, the one counter point I can't possibly counter! Nicely played... :fuzsad:

So can I at least hang him on a cross again so he doesn't bother anyone?

Havoc

Paramite of War 04-13-2007 03:51 PM

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10;Legalizing abortion (So sue me, liberals. Infanticide is bad, m'kay?)

I personally go baby bashing every night :)

Havoc 04-13-2007 03:53 PM

Bad POW, you can't kick your pregnant 14 year old in the stomach. You have a child to raise! :lol:

Havoc

Paramite of War 04-13-2007 03:55 PM

Dude I'm 14. Like I'm gonna go **** some girl get her pregnant then beat her and her baby up.

Havoc 04-13-2007 03:58 PM

You say that now... you just wait till that thing starts crying.

Havoc