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Kamille 07-13-2006 03:43 PM

Modern Art
 
what do you guys think of modern art? please if you have a favorite modern artist i would love to hear about it, personally i think their is some great modern art.

Rex Tirano 07-13-2006 03:52 PM

modern art sucks balls

hahaha and rich sed i cud say that

Rich 07-13-2006 03:54 PM

Yeah, I allowed her to say that, so no flamage, she's allowed her opinion. Anyway, some modern art is good, some is not so good, it depends on opinion. I don't know enough about art to talk about artists and what-not yet though.

Mutual Friend 07-13-2006 03:55 PM

I look forward for the 'masses' to step forward and diss modern art. How fun and original.

Didn't ye know some guy pickled a shark?! And they call that art?!?!?

used:) 07-13-2006 04:48 PM

Some of it is good, some of it is bad.

Leto 07-13-2006 11:31 PM

What the hell is modern art, anyway? Art made in recent times? Or out-there wannabe-surreal painted toiletry products and the like?

sketch 07-14-2006 12:07 AM

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Didn't ye know some guy pickled a shark?! And they call that art?!?!?

yeah that was Damien Hurst, he kicks ass.... In a good way....

Nate 07-14-2006 07:23 AM

I think it's impossible to classify Modern Art, at least based on what I've been seeing recently. I like some modern art, most significantly Kandinsky. Calder's kinetic sculptures are amazing also. Artists who do wierd random shit then call it art can be entertaining but I don't find it too enlightening.

For a good lesson on modern art, I'd recommend anyone to go to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art. They've got a great range of really good art and very little of the random shit. Life-size plaster model of Michael Jackson and Bubbles notwithstanding.

EDIT: According to wikipedia:
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Modern art is a general term used for most of the artistic production from the late 19th century until approximately the 1970s.
So the term refers to time-periods rather than anything stylistic.

Lord Vulcher 07-14-2006 08:18 AM

Basically what Tirano says, modern art sucks. The works of Vincent Van Gogh make modern at look like elephant dung.

used:) 07-14-2006 08:19 AM

So what artists make modern art look good? Van Gogh is amazing.

Lord Vulcher 07-14-2006 08:22 AM

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Van Gogh is amazing.

I agree, pity he had to kill himself.

Fez 07-14-2006 09:01 AM

I like it alot acutally. I love the abstractness about it, its like, Thinking Art.

Lord Vulcher 07-14-2006 09:03 AM

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I like it alot acutally. I love the abstractness about it, its like, Thinking Art.

Nah, I find abstarcts a wee bit iffy. But I do like drawings of countryside scenery and mountains.

Kimon 07-14-2006 12:41 PM

I think a work must take skill, talent, or at least incredible innovation or inspiration to be labeled as 'art'. A lot of 'modern art' is scammy bullshit.

However, Juxtapoz has hundreds of examples of EXCELLENT modern art. A lot of it is done by graffiti artists. Top-notch.

Havoc 07-14-2006 02:58 PM

My problem with 'modern' art is that I can just put a painbrush in a bucket of paint, spray it at a canvas and call it art.
Most 'art' these days is all tasteless crap that hardly had any effort in it. Art is only as good as the effort the creator put in it. Putting a few lines on a canvas is not art in my opinion, thats a doodle.

Mutual Friend 07-14-2006 03:18 PM

I don't get all this 'effort' shebang - someone can work really hard on a piece of shit, and another person can just piss something onto a canvas and it's a thing of beauty.

The more talent you have, the less effort required. Potentially.

Fez 07-14-2006 03:32 PM

The man speaks the truth!

Statikk HDM 07-14-2006 07:55 PM

I don't know. I just don't get modern art. I've been to art museums a few times and while I didn't hate it I just couldn't get into it. I'm not going to go off and say it "sucks" as I haven't really spent that much time with it but I like sculptures and paintings and carved art that you know, actually looks like something. The message is lost in all the pretentiousness is what I think. But then again I'm no art buff.

Havoc 07-15-2006 07:31 AM

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I don't get all this 'effort' shebang - someone can work really hard on a piece of shit, and another person can just piss something onto a canvas and it's a thing of beauty.

The more talent you have, the less effort required. Potentially.

Even the best painter in the world has to spend weeks on painting a masterpiece. I wasn't so much talking about skill effort, more like time effort.

I can paint an abstract painting in, hm, an hour? 10 minutes to get the paint and the brushes, 15 minutes to get the canvas, 35 minutes of painting and I have myself a modern piece of art.

But MF is right to some degree. I sometimes see stuff standing alongside the freeway which is supposed to be modern art. And supposedly someone has worked weeks on designing it and huge manhours into creating it... and all it looks like is some needle, fork, knife, pointer thingy case thing.
But in general I don't like modern art for the simplicity of it. Art for me needs to have a meaning. Like the dogs playing poker. It's a cool painting to look at.
Then I see some painting with a few lines in it... and... I see 5 different shades of red and thats about it... get my point?

Lord Vulcher 07-15-2006 11:42 AM

You wouldn't believe it, I have just seen a piece of modern art that is on sale for £15,000. It is two dots! Two freakin dots.

Mutual Friend 07-15-2006 11:44 AM

You're right, I wouldn't believe that.

Lord Vulcher 07-15-2006 11:48 AM

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You're right, I wouldn't believe that.

You sound exactly like that guy from One Foot in the Grave. And don't start that again.

Dusan 07-15-2006 01:49 PM

If artist is good, than the art is also good.
I generaly like modern art. It gives an artist a chance to use his creativity.

Havoc 07-15-2006 01:53 PM

Oh so if Picaso would put one single DOT on a 2 x 2 canvas, someone would buy it for 500k? Never mind, don't answer that. Yes there are morons out there who would do that and they need to be shot.

used:) 07-15-2006 01:59 PM

Even the deepest of philosophies can be expressed with something as simple as a dot. :)

Mutual Friend 07-15-2006 02:08 PM

No, they can't. That's why I hate SOME art so much, it gives you so little and expects you to bring so much.

used:) 07-15-2006 02:10 PM

Well, you're British. :p

Rich 07-15-2006 02:13 PM

Nothing to do with being British. :p

I agree that the dot can indeed be expressive.

Havoc 07-15-2006 02:15 PM

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EDIT: Look, I'm expresive!

used:) 07-15-2006 02:16 PM

It has to be used in an artistic sense.

And don't say you were.