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skillya_glowi 12-20-2005 10:48 AM

help in stockyards please!
 
i need help in this stockyards scene in abes oddyssee. im trying to get all 99 muds and i think ive got everyone so far, but i'm stuck on this one scene. it's kinda hard to describe, but it's.... i think, but im not sure, it's near the scene of the sleeping slig and the mine. it's this secret screen with this green light thingy, and theres mines everywhere, and these sligs walking around, and it looks near impossible. help someone, cuz i really want to see the shrink movie if it exists. thank you for cooperating!

Nate 12-20-2005 10:56 AM

If you have the PS version, take a photo of the screen. If you have the PC version, post a screenshot. Of course, if you have the PC version you won't see the shrink movie because it's only in the PS version.

skillya_glowi 12-20-2005 10:58 AM

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If you have the PS version, take a photo of the screen. If you have the PC version, post a screenshot. Of course, if you have the PC version you won't see the shrink movie because it's only in the PS version.

WHAT? I DONT GET THE SHRINK MOVIE???????????
i cant post a screenshot because my mom is sitting on the sofa next to me. and she has banned oddworld from this house hold, but i am loyal... i play it when she's not home. maybe i will get a chance later.

Havoc 12-20-2005 11:15 AM

Lol, your mom too? My mom hates Abe for some reason. Always freaks her out when I play Oddworld and it goes to a cutscene XD.

Anyhoo, in what part of the stockyard are you exactly? On your way out or on your way back in?

skillya_glowi 12-20-2005 11:22 AM

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Lol, your mom too? My mom hates Abe for some reason. Always freaks her out when I play Oddworld and it goes to a cutscene XD.

Anyhoo, in what part of the stockyard are you exactly? On your way out or on your way back in?

i'm on my way out, but i know the game fairly well, i have been through it 5 times already, but there are these parts that i JUST CANT GET. but this time i'm armed with fierce determination to rescue ALL the mudokons, Shrink movie or not.
my mom just thinks Abe is juvenile, even though its rated teen. well, i dont care if everyone in the world thinks Abe is stupid, i'm gonna keep playing it.

Havoc 12-20-2005 11:26 AM

And so you should.

Hm... if there is an unarmed mine in the picture, try arming it and sneaking back in the shadows or a screen back. Then the slig will walk onto it.

Otherwise, I wouldn't know and I'd have to see a picture.

skillya_glowi 12-20-2005 11:37 AM

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And so you should.

Hm... if there is an unarmed mine in the picture, try arming it and sneaking back in the shadows or a screen back. Then the slig will walk onto it.

Otherwise, I wouldn't know and I'd have to see a picture.

no no its not that scene. i did that on my first try. no, the slig is sleeping, and youre supposed to throw the rock to blow up the mine and the slig. THAT is not the part im having trouble with. it's like a landmark for the part i'm having trouble with. the part that im having trouble with is NEAR the sleeping slig.

Havoc 12-20-2005 11:50 AM

Well I dunno the stockyards from the top of my head. I do remember one scene that was rather difficult tho, it has one slig walking up and down and another up on a cliff.

But it would realy help if you had a screener...

skillya_glowi 12-20-2005 11:52 AM

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Well I dunno the stockyards from the top of my head. I do remember one scene that was rather difficult tho, it has one slig walking up and down and another up on a cliff.

But it would realy help if you had a screener...

i know it would really, help, but *ahem* my mom. I wish i had really started the "oddworld archives" i had been planning.

Havoc 12-20-2005 11:54 AM

Hm, here you go, maybe this helps.

http://vgmaps.com/Atlas/PSX/Oddworld...e-FireZone.png

If you still dunno, point out at exactly which part you are and I will be able to help you from there.

skillya_glowi 12-20-2005 11:58 AM

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Hm, here you go, maybe this helps.

http://vgmaps.com/Atlas/PSX/Oddworld...e-FireZone.png

If you still dunno, point out at exactly which part you are and I will be able to help you from there.

YES! i found it!

Havoc 12-20-2005 11:59 AM

Glad to be of help :).

skillya_glowi 12-20-2005 12:00 PM

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Glad to be of help :).

it's in the screen called "Mudokon 38".
what do you mean " glad to be of help? " you still wont tell me what to do.

Havoc 12-20-2005 12:18 PM

Well I thought you had it because you said you found it. Would have helped if you mentioned the screen in the same post, mister...

Okay lets see... your right, doesn't look easy o.o.
Well for one thing, the mines are there to blow up the slogs that are chasing you. My best guess would be that you have to jump on the platform with the sligs, climb up and make a straight run for the shadow on the other screen and old it there. That will take care of the slogs. (Not sure how fast those sligs will respond tho, if they litteraly shoot on sight, that won't work).

Anyway, if that does work (and I see no reason to why it shouldn't as their is no other way to get to the shadow without a slog getting you at the balls), stand in the shadow and then roll behind the wall and posses the slig below you. In panic he will prolly blow himself up before you get a chance to do that.
Next, time your roll back to the shadow, then time a jump over the gap and climb down inbetween the mines. Hop over to the left, crouch and go check if the sligs are down there or not. Since I assume their still up there, posses them one by one till their all gone. Now backtrack and save your mud friends.

This is just from what I can see in these screens, I dunno how the sligs behave in this puzzle so you will have to try out some stuff using my guide as a basis.

skillya_glowi 12-20-2005 12:24 PM

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Well I thought you had it because you said you found it. Would have helped if you mentioned the screen in the same post, mister...

Okay lets see... your right, doesn't look easy o.o.
Well for one thing, the mines are there to blow up the slogs that are chasing you. My best guess would be that you have to jump on the platform with the sligs, climb up and make a straight run for the shadow on the other screen and old it there. That will take care of the slogs. (Not sure how fast those sligs will respond tho, if they litteraly shoot on sight, that won't work).

Anyway, if that does work (and I see no reason to why it shouldn't as their is no other way to get to the shadow without a slog getting you at the balls), stand in the shadow and then roll behind the wall and posses the slig below you. In panic he will prolly blow himself up before you get a chance to do that.
Next, time your roll back to the shadow, then time a jump over the gap and climb down inbetween the mines. Hop over to the left, crouch and go check if the sligs are down there or not. Since I assume their still up there, posses them one by one till their all gone. Now backtrack and save your mud friends.

This is just from what I can see in these screens, I dunno how the sligs behave in this puzzle so you will have to try out some stuff using my guide as a basis.

okay, thx, ill try that. once i get the chance... *glares at mom*

big bro boogie 12-20-2005 03:59 PM

Oh! That part... yea I remember that, but I can't remember slogs in there though.

When I get there, the sligs are about to run off the platform, so you'll have to run-roll into the little hole to the right. (Hanging onto the ledge, climbing up and walking to the right won't work either, for one slig will remain on the platform.)
So, when you're in the little hole, roll right and stop before you'll hit the mine. The slig to your right will turn around and say "what". If correct you're in the shadows, so you'll be able to stand up safely.
Now wait until the slig to your right turns away from you, then hop over to the next shadow, the slig will turn around again. Wait until he turns away again and hop to the next shadow. He'll turn around again. Now wait until both sligs (the one on the upper ledge, and the one next to you) are facing away from you. Fastly climb up on the ledge and hop into the shadow to your right. DON'T move. Wait for the sligs to calm down again.
Then walk to the right (don't press down, or you'll hang from the ledge and the slig'll kill you) and roll through the hole. Now you're safe. Start Chanting. The slig underneath you will panic and run into one of the mines. Start chanting again and posses the slig to your left. Walk to the other screen and Immediately shoot the slig standing next to you.
Now you'll be on the ledge above the mudokon, which is now guarded by 2 sligs.
Say "Hi" to 'blend in with the guys' and drop down (It works for the PS so I bet it'll work for the PC aswell). Get yourself in a comfortable shooting range and yell "Look out" the mud will duck, now shoot the 2 sligs. Since there aren't any more sligs on this level you can kill your host and return to Abe.

Roll through the hole and hop onto the other platform. Walk to the other screen and chant to free the mudokon. Then walk back to the right and hop back into the shadow next to the hole. Chant to open the bird portal, drop down from the ledge, and jump out of the secret area.

skillya_glowi 12-20-2005 04:29 PM

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Oh! That part... yea I remember that, but I can't remember slogs in there though.

When I get there, the sligs are about to run off the platform, so you'll have to run-roll into the little hole to the right. (Hanging onto the ledge, climbing up and walking to the right won't work either, for one slig will remain on the platform.)
So, when you're in the little hole, roll right and stop before you'll hit the mine. The slig to your right will turn around and say "what". If correct you're in the shadows, so you'll be able to stand up safely.
Now wait until the slig to your right turns away from you, then hop over to the next shadow, the slig will turn around again. Wait until he turns away again and hop to the next shadow. He'll turn around again. Now wait until both sligs (the one on the upper ledge, and the one next to you) are facing away from you. Fastly climb up on the ledge and hop into the shadow to your right. DON'T move. Wait for the sligs to calm down again.
Then walk to the right (don't press down, or you'll hang from the ledge and the slig'll kill you) and roll through the hole. Now you're safe. Start Chanting. The slig underneath you will panic and run into one of the mines. Start chanting again and posses the slig to your left. Walk to the other screen and Immediately shoot the slig standing next to you.
Now you'll be on the ledge above the mudokon, which is now guarded by 2 sligs.
Say "Hi" to 'blend in with the guys' and drop down (It works for the PS so I bet it'll work for the PC aswell). Get yourself in a comfortable shooting range and yell "Look out" the mud will duck, now shoot the 2 sligs. Since there aren't any more sligs on this level you can kill your host and return to Abe.

Roll through the hole and hop onto the other platform. Walk to the other screen and chant to free the mudokon. Then walk back to the right and hop back into the shadow next to the hole. Chant to open the bird portal, drop down from the ledge, and jump out of the secret area.

wow, thank you very much.