How do you reason with Terrorist?
You people who are voteing democrat and are against the war and who think that there should have been more peace talks and want to raise taxes are nuts! Theres been peace talks since the Galf War and we got nothing. Tell me how do you reason with a terrorist? I really would like to understand that logic. How do you talk to a man with a ****ing bomb straped around himself ready to kill you?
Evidently the Democrats want to do just that and of course raise property taxes. and I am voteing for Bush just because I know that you can't reason with terrorist and people like Saddam need to be delt with before they become worse. If anything Bush is good at it is action. I disagree with other stuff he does but he is better then Kerry and he is the only choice I have. I don't want to choose Kerry because he's a moron and well I have no other choice to vote for Bush again. And Nadar doesn't even belong to a real established party and he will never make office though I like some of his policys. At least there is action with Bush and that is all I care about. And if its war they want war they will get thus rid the world of them there will be no more war and peace would be established once again. Can't wait to hear the arguements on this one. |
'Golf War'
Ohh, yeh, i heard of that. T'was awful. Tiger Woods lost an arm and everything!! 'I don't want to choose Kerry because he's a moron' And Mr Bush is the pinnacle of intelligence. To be honest i don't really mind Bush, he seems like an okay guy and i don't really get why people like to mock his intelligence because at the end of the day it's not fair to ridicule things people can't help. Although it is fun. I just don't like the fact he's fanatically religious, this to me seems ridiculous. There should be a test to make sure that if you're going to run a country you shouldn't be religious...or atleast fanatically so |
You never answerd my question how do you reason with terrorist?
Did I say he is intelligent? No I am voteing Bush because he is stoping them. Now thats the only choice I have anyone else would cause a sense of insecurity. |
you reason with Terrorist with a 9mm
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Exactly I couldn't say it better myself. If terrorist think they have every right to come in my country and fly airplanes into skyscrapers then as protection for myself I will take a gun and shoot them in the back of their heads! Like I said Bush is all action not all talk. He does what he says he's going to do.
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Personally IMO you can't use violence against violence... otherwise both parties end up looking like shmucks! Bush was wrong in his immediate sensationalist retaliation... he just needed to find someone to lay the blaim on and as long as that group wasn't American then all the better!!!! Blair was wrong in following bush like a lap dog but we still owe you guys from WW2 so "dubya" says jump Tony says "how high?" What really pissed us Brits off was that Blair took our guys out to war without a public referendum, against poliy advisors when the UN investigate had found nada, zip, zero, WMD! |
So what you really think the Government will leak out all information like that? Please we found them they are just saying we dident to make it seem like what it is now. But I can guarantee you somewhere down the road probabally in 20 years when our society is mature enough they will declassify it. Heck They declassified the events at Roswell and it was a secret Government expierment on high atmospherec weather baloons for the war.
They are not going to tell us now because it would cause mass histeria. Its all classified to prevent a serious problem its the obvieous. So they are just saying that we never found anything to make it look like the worse failure of all time when in reality there is something that none of us see. I for one am a selected few whome think there is a huge cover up going on. |
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there like pests you kill one, then one takes there place... my thoughts is nuke them all if innocents die well it will be for the good of humanity !
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Wow.
Um, PA, where did you get the idea that all Democrats want to just sit down and have a friendly talk with terrorists? That's a pretty strange generalization you've got there. |
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Surely its worse to think that the leader of one of the most wealthy countries in the world went to war because of something that wasn't there? Wouldn't it be better to hear bush say "America its Okay! Daddy Dubya has found them there nasty weapons of mass destruction... you are still free to carry side arms and over eat without panic once more" The hysteria is in the hightening realisation that America, Britain and France went to war because of something that wasn't even there!!!!! Other than about 6 failed Navy Seal attempts at popping off Sadam and a worrying loss of oil once more! |
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i don't know if you saw some pictures of thr roits in iraq where are own troops are getting petrol bombed now to me that wrong we not allowed to fire back....how many more troops will it take till we can retalete
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...We are technically no longer "at war" we are in Iraq as "UN peace keepers" now and as such thats what we do... we keep the peace by not retaliating! It'll end up a Ireland situation. |
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Oh ive seen them Ive seen it all but only 600 solders have been killed since the end of combat. There are hundreds of thousands of solders still there. Big difference in the casulties. Its unfortunate but the nation will rebound again its just going to take some time. If we pull out then it will be back to the way it was before. The terrorist are mainly on the run and these little bombings you hear every few weeks means its slowly but surely weakoning.
Because Ive notice how every case is beginning to show signs of being more and more weeks apart from happening when before it was every two weeks or a week or just days. Now its like random. Its starting to show hints of slowing down. But its going to take some paitients to establish a working economy and we are doing the right thing. Peace does not come to you on a silver platter and thats what people need to understand. You can't talk to violent people who hate you. The only way is force and its going to take time. |
'You never answerd my question how do you reason with terrorist?'
I dunno, how? I know that you don't reason with them by killing them off, because that just creates more terrorists. Like some random guy said, they're like pests, you kill one and a 100 take its place. Bush inadvertantly prodded a Wasps nest with a giant, Honey coated Dildo when he declared war on Iraq. I personally don't mind however, because all the Wasps will be heading towards the great, big, fat man that is America. 'Like I said Bush is all action not all talk' Which is why people think he's so dangerous - you need a medium to be a good President. You can't be all talk and no action, likewise, you can't be all action and no talk. 'Please we found them they are just saying we dident to make it seem like what it is now' You're a moron. You really are. It's one thing you live your life dictated by a small book. It's another that you actually believe that. I hope AQ bomb where you live...atleast that'll wipe the people out who would have died in the wild [survival of the fittest et al]. Anyway, for the people who say the war was illegal, it wasn't. Saddam had breached UN resolutions and so by all means it was a legal war. It's just that the US and the UK said he had WMD's, which he didn't and so people got hung up on that. |
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Hahahahahaha. Oh man. I'm sorry PA, but that is... Oh jeez. I don't even know where to start. Why are you assuming that every country that isn't America is a terrorist nation? List all of the countries you can think of, then look at how many of them are run by terrorists. |
They do have WMD they are not telling us.
I mean it doesnt take much of a genus to figure out what is happening behind the scenes here. Why you don't see that is beyond me. |
Britain? France? Poland? Ireland? Finland? Iceland? Mongolia? Sudan? Mexico? Canada? Denmark? Japan? Australia? Georgia? Bangladesh? Thailand? Venezuela? Argentina?
You're telling me these all have WMD? |
ireland don't >>> and there is alot more countries
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Mac can I join you with the laughing!?! ROTFLMAO! Goodness! Is this a common view in America or have you thought of it all on your own!?! |
Well as much as I would love to comment on your qoutes I am not going to be an ass. But you I think the exception is likewise! You would.
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'So you hate us what do you want us to do sit around let you come in and destroy us? I don't think so!'
Correct me if i'm wrong, but if you were the President of the USA, and you found out that, say, Britain, France and Germany disliked you...you would bomb them straight away? Let's hope Bush does do PA's idea, then let's see how PA feels when the entire EU [and China and Japan] suddenly knock on America's door with a great big present of retailiation... |
No I would take matters into my own hands and handle the threat from people who are actually attacking us that you are ignoring out of your own pathetic ignorance. Thats what I would do. I would leave you Europeans alone after all you guys are so rightous and lazy and don't even bother helping us when we are in trouble. But when we come to help you, you guys hate us.
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Oh you mean you "decline to comment" I am actually interested though... Do Americans (or rather the ones you know... not to over generalise) actually believe they are "hated" and the rest of the world is habouring WMD against them? |
no thats not it.
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I'm all ears or rather eyes... as I'm reading this! |
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Well if they're willing to give their life for their cause, then the Governments are going to make sure htat they can give their lives in a way that effects as few other people as possible
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they are doing this, thats how we lost over 50 men recently.....
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Wow. My main problem with dubya isn't that he's a moron. It's that that moron is in charge of (Let's face it) one of the most powerful countries in the world. Having him in charge during 911 is the best thing that could ever have happened to AQ. Think about it. You want to blow stuff up in the US and you want to arouse anti-US sentiment at the same time. That's difficult. Bombing some place without any (Immediately obvious) provocation generally makes the victim seem sympathetic.
Enter Bush. The only man dumb enough to think that bombing ENTIRE COUNTRIES in hopes of killing, say, 50 people, was a good idea. That's afghanistan. As for Iraq there are reports of meetings he had two weeks into office where he said "(about saddam) Let's find a way to get rid of this guy" If you recall, Saddam was put into power by the US in the first place. It's only when George Sr. finds exception with him that anything bad was suspected. I wonder why that is? Suddenly, (HA! suddenly...) tons of anti-US all over the place. Leading the people into a war based on WMDs we had every reason to believe were not there, (as stated by the intelligence reports) is a HUGE breach of presidential authority. Come on! We impeached Clinton because he got head from an intern and lied about it. Nobody was hurt. Yet Bush gets to go on a war rampage fueled in great part by complete lies. Thousands of people die on both sides; everybody hates the US; and there is nothing to show for it. Where's the poetic justice, damnit? As for reasoning with Terrorists, it's pretty obvious you can't. The entire UN tells Bush that this war is a bad idea and will kill lots of civilians for minimal, or as it turns out, NO results, but does he listen? He couldn't do that! They hate our freedom! It's time to kill people who have absolutely nothing to do with it! And of course in the process of this witch-hunt more and more people see the US as a capitalist blight intent on hurting others for their own benefit. Rightly, I suppose. As 911 was in fact in response to the US murdering hundreds of citizens via bombing during what was supposedly peace-time. What will this bombing do but create more terrorists? Kill some people. Get us some more oil. I think that's about it. |
PA, you're what? 22? What say makes you appear like an incredibly naiave person half your age...
- Isn't it hilarious how Kerry voted FOR the PATRIOT Act, and now he opposes it? The Patriot Act was passed nearly unanimously by the Senate 98-1, and 357-66 in the House: “Most of [The Patriot Act] has to do with improving the transfer of information between CIA and FBI, and it has to do with things that really were quite necessary in the wake of what happened on September 11th.” (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Town Hall Meeting, Manchester, NH, 8/6/03). Not surprisingly, now Kerry wants the act repealed: “We are a nation of laws and liberties, not of a knock in the night. So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft. That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time. I’ve been a District Attorney and I know that what law enforcement needs are real tools not restrictions on American’s basic rights.” (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Iowa State University, Iowa City, IA, 12/1/03) - How he supported the Iraq War and the 87 billion dollars towards the rebuilding process, but now is against it? FOR: “George, I said at the time I would have preferred if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity, but I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the President made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him.” (ABC News, Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Columbia, SC, 5/4/03) AGAINST: CHRIS MATTHEWS: “Do you think you belong to that category of candidates who more or less are unhappy with this war, the way it’s been fought, along with General Clark, along with Howard Dean and not necessarily in companionship politically on the issue of the war with people like Lieberman, Edwards and Gephardt? Are you one of the anti-war candidates?” KERRY: “I am -- Yes, in the sense that I don’t believe the president took us to war as he should have, yes, absolutely.” (MSNBC’s “Hardball,” 1/6/04) - How he supported the first Gulf war, but now opposes it? AGAINST: ‘Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition ... to the early use of military force by the US against Iraq. I share your concerns. On January 11, I voted in favor of a resolution that would have insisted that economic sanctions be given more time to work and against a resolution giving the president the immediate authority to go to war.’ --letter from Senator John Kerry to Wallace Carter of Newton Centre, Massachusetts, dated January 22 [1991] FOR: ‘Thank you very much for contacting me to express your support for the actions of President Bush in response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. From the outset of the invasion, I have strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush’s response to the crisis and the policy goals he has established with our military deployment in the Persian Gulf.’ --Senator Kerry to Wallace Carter, January 31 [1991]” I can go on and on, there are mass amounts of issues in which John Kerry has DIRECTLY contradicted himself. Perhaps i'll put afew more out there a little later. How can anyone in their right mind vote for John Kerry come election day? I may not be American, but I do love me politics! Anywho, back to your question (How do you reason with Terrorist?), you reason with them the same way as anyone else. Not with a gun, not with killing but by trying to acheive both ends. Trying to give way and let them have what they want - to an extent, but make sure it's fair all around. Every terrorist is generally doing it for something - they're not going into it blindly with no cause. To stop them, remove their cause or remove their motive. |
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"Oh, America will do whatever we want to prevent a terrorist attack! Lets demend even more things like a milion dollar per month for not blowing up half the city of New York with stolen WMD from an AMERICAN base..." Thats not gonna work... if you take away a motive or reason that usealy mean that you GIVE them something... mostly freedom, money or a new goverment. But in the end ppl wil start abusing that and it will al go to downright blackmailing... |
'How can anyone in their right mind vote for John Kerry come election day?'
I don't see how a man changing his mind can make him seem bad...care to elaborate? |
Well, somebody who is running for president should have consise and clear thoughts on the issues. If he is forever changing his mind about major things, then how can you vote for him?
You should vote for a president because you agree with their policies/ideas and stances on various subjects. If he is going to go back on what he previously said then how can you possibly continue to agree with him? Example: Lets say he's against the war in Iraq. If you vote him president because of that, how can you be sure he won't launch an invasion on Iraq. As we can see, he has a history of changing his mind about major things. |
Gee, would you rather have him be WRONG or pragmatic? This guy doesn't need to clutch these beliefs till his dying day.Hell, I'd be overjoyed if Bush stopped being such an antagonistic, dogmatic prick and learned to be flexible.
Also, The Volsung has raised some great points and I'd just like to elaborate. You don't have to be a Republican to love America. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO LIKE GEORGE BUSH! Esus and paramiteabe bitch that Kerry flips flops? Pleaaase. How about bush saying that he was going to give 10 times what he actually gave to fund education? How about Bush saying that he was not in favor of regime changes when hes already attempted two of them? How about Bush saying that he was all about fiscal responsibility when he's spent more money than any other president since Lyndon B. Johnson? How about Bush saying the main cause for war was WMDs. Then it was about regime changes. Then it was containing terrorists. How about Bush promising that he would not pass a massive tax cut for the rich and called Gore's PERFECTLY ACURATE assessment of the tax cut "fuzzy math? But what did he do? Use "fuzzy truth" A.K.A. lies and pass one of the biggest tax cuts in the history of the world with the vast majority of the money being funnelled to the richest 1 percent of America? |
To add on from Stads point, i would just like to say that if Kerry did change his mind, it must be for a good reason. One that atleast a few would agree with him about...and so i don't see a problem.
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For one we are bringing these terrorist to justice. Saddam is going to be put on trial in a few months and in June we are going to hand over the power to the Iraqis so they may start their new Government.
We have Bin Ladden at our fingertips now and its only a matter of time until we bring him to justice. The terrorist are running scared and we are winning this war. |