Just a guess...
 

Ok... Didn't the Glukkons make Muds slaves becous of the Mudokon moon?? Then what will happen to the Gabbits now that they have a moon too?? Wouldn't the Glukkons be even more angry and maybe try to erase the Gabbit specie???
Just a guess...

where does that moon have anything to do with it all?
And about the Gabbit moon, I think they should have left it out, it blames a big part of the story for me.

it's not just because of the moon the glukkons enslaved the mudokons, it's because the mudokons are the chosen ones for oddworld. i think that the gabbit moon just means that their race won't die out or summing like that, being that munch was the last gabbit.

And this should really be in the Oddworld Questions and Answers thread.

well, when did those moons appear?
we never saw the gabbit moons before...

I think the moons were always there. Just because we personally didn't see the gabbit moon, it doesn't mean it wasn't there.

maybe it was in some sort of weird orbit when it stayed behind the mud moon. I wonder is Stranger has a moon?

Stranger has no moon, only quintology heroes have moons. I think.

I don't think they'd enslave the Gabbits...they don't seem like they'd be very efficient with manual labor.

The moons have always been there, with their individual prints. They were formed many centuries ago, dare I say eons, before Abe lead the uprising. Abe, Munch and the following quintology heroes (and possibly heroines) are infact playing out their destinies (and fate).

I'd imagine Big Face knows more than he let on (though, that's my opinion).

Alcar...

the Mudokon moon was there long time ago...
we have no infos about the other moons

and only quitology heroes does have moons

Are you for certain that all the main characters of the quintology has a moon? I dunno about that because Oddworld is becomming more and more complex. And with this new game being concurrent then I would be real careful on that notion. We don't know the quintology. All we know is that they are the main stories of Oddworld.

And remember we havent fully explored the true depths of the odd. I believe we are in for some even more serious stuff than what we've seen thus far. Oddworld is so odd and complex that even something as simple as a wall or a huge dam has a story to tell. Perhaps the next character of the Quintology has a sacred wall or a sacred rock. Thats Odd. Or what if the next character is so outragious that it can be a non liveing thing but liveing in a sense of depending on some lifeform to keep it alive like some wierd kind of liveing non liveing relationship? Thats more like Oddworld to me.

Paramiteabe... :fuzblink:

I think it was Abe Babe and Pilot that replayed to us the information that every hero / heroine had a moon with his / her print imprinted on its surface.

Alcar...

Ah but Lanning stated in Polygon on how his stories are starting to get more more deeper into meaning behind something like a wall or a dam. So whatever it is I think it will be both because Lorne seems to be looking at something new now which Id expect from Oddworld.

Oh, yes. He did say he was considering changing the entire storyline (well, maybe not the entirety of it), but he didn't make it official. So for now, we only have what we know from the past to go on.

Alcar...

But I wouldn't even take that as granted. Lorne went back on when he said Abe's Moon was created, or at least there was a lot of confusion over it all. Regarding when Munch's Moon 'came about', the precise wording he used in this particular question session was: "Munch's foot print also winds up on the face of a moon too."

Ah, I remember that. It was the forumers who misunderstood Pilot and Abe Babe. Pilot was trying to say that the moons were imprinted eons before the time of Abe by meteor strikes. Everyone misunderstood it for "just as Abe left Rupture Farms".

Alcar...

Ooooh, right! ;) That all makes sense then, except Lorne saying we would not find out how the moon was created. :p But at least that's not continuity.

alcar... pilot said the "moon" or the "moons"?

I've pretty sure he meant "moons".

Alcar...

hmmmm the mudokon moon will make sence
but why the other moons also?
Gabbit never were concidered as the "choosen ones"

The Gabbits aren't necessarily a spiritual race: they simply may never have claimed to be the Chosen Race, which is certainly what set the Glukkons against the Mudokons aeons ago. It seems strange that they would act totally blazé to its appearance, but then they don't appear to be the most deep-thinking of creatures. Munch is definitely a relatively simple being, though whether that's because of his age, I couldn't say.

Who can say. And just think, a similar discussion is going to crop up with each Oddysee of the Quintology. ;)

I would prefer to see the first moon as a sign, that predicts the quitology, and the next moons appear big even after big even of the quitology.
it would be better that the footprint appeared while much was accompliching his mission in MO

You know, in a way so would I, but until there's some official word on the matter, we can't say for certain when Munch's Moon was created. Unless Lorne did actually tell Pilot and Abe Babe that all the moons were created long ago.

I still think those moons (exept the mudokon one) should be left out. As far as im concerned Abe's the only main character in the quintoligy probably together with Molluck. Munch and all other future 'heroes' are just seondary elements IMO.
I think the entire story evolves around the battle between Abe (Mud leader) and Molluck (gluk leader).

Molluck is not a gluk leader, he's just a very rich guy. In fact, if any gluk ever saw him again he would probly have Molluck shot.

I think the 5 moons are great, they add to the mystique of Oddworld.
Something involving an upper being maybe? :p

I actualy meant that Molluck was the main Glukkon character in the quintoligy.

Sorry to say this Havoc but you are missing the whole point of the quintology. The running theme is that of the underdogs joining together to defeat the powers that be. Thus teaching the kiddies an important lesson in teamwork and mutiny

I guese Oddworld focust a little to much on the mudokon spiecies the first 2 games for me to think that way. But the future games will tell... maybe il change my mind.

Hehe, yes that is true. But who says the Mudokons are the good guys, and the Glukkons are the bad guys? I think we'll find out later on that the Glukkons are in fact repaying some revenge upon the Mudokons (more deeper than the Glukkons being called the inferior race).

Alcar...

The Oddworld Quintology is primarily the story of Abe's journey from the 'diamand mines' to the 'consumer cities', so Havoc does have a point. The other characters do indeed have their own importances, equalling Abe's, but the story as a whole is Abe's, even if he steps back into the shadows for large chunks of it.

And Alcar has a good point. Mudokons have a far shadier history than we or even they realise, so I wouldn't be surprised if their ancestors are partly responcible for their downfall in ways other than their arrogance.

Oh that would be a realy interesting twist! The glukkons being the good guys eventualy! :S

I think the implication was that the Glukkons are not so much bad as misunderstood. After all, they have to pay the rent and feed themselves, as does anyone. The means by which they acquire that money is merely born through the identities society puts into them, as is their drive towards greed and reputation. Oddworld is meant to be about blurring the lines between good and evil, while providing some pretty good parodies of contemporary issues such as consumerism, the environment etc.

no one is bad or good on Oddworld
they just have different views and oppinions

Chopping up your workers isnt bad you say?

maybe it's bad on your point of view and not for the Glukkons...

Let it be me... but I think - even in oddworld - that chopping up your factory workers for profits is just bad. I don't think OWI would make Oddworld that extreme so they can say something like that is a good thing.

That is generally bad. I completely understand the point Xavier was trying to make but it just collapsed on it's spindly wooden legs with:
The majority of bad guys believe what their doing isn't bad in their point of view. Therefore, it isn't so unique.

point taken... point made :D

Except that the Lorne originally planned for the first game to be Squeek's Oddysee, in which case Abe would be a secondary character by comparison. So the quintology is about the journey from the mines to the cities but for all the 'Quints' (if I may coin a term for all the heroes) together, not primarily Abe.