Loch Ness...
take a look at these...
the first video looks like a wave but the second one...I'll let you decide. http://www.truthaboutlochness.com/video.htm |
I've always believed in Loch Ness, Big Foot and stuff like that. The second video was awesome with the fin and how fast it moved.
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i was thinking its some sort of really big eel. Are there any eels in Loch Ness?
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I also believe in Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, UFOs,etc.
About the movies,I can't view them.I watch it on Quicktime, and nothing happened.I watched it on Windows Media,"The Connection Failed".I can't watch them.My PC is screwed up. :
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I looked at other Loch Ness Monster photos, (I own a book thats about Loch Ness Monster) and they seem similiar to the pictures on the link ferill gave me.So,I think they actually saw Nessie.And again, thanks for the photos ferill. |
seem to be fake, look at this
http://www.ncbuy.com/news/2004-02-12/1008909.html |
Those video doesnt actually show loch ness... anyways i reckon its fake.
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Wow, Xav! I guess it is fake.
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so, the first one is a fake, but what about the more convincing second one?
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Now that I look at the second video again, it seems very fake. Not the footage, but listen to the reactions of the people. They sound like they're acting.
Anyway, have you guys ever heard of the Lake Champlain monster in America? http://www.parascope.com/en/cryptozoo/aquarium02.jpg The notorious sea beast of Lake Champlain, a 109-mile-long lake on the border of New York and Vermont, is considered America's Loch Ness Monster. Popular legend has it that the French explorer Samuel de Champlain saw the creature in 1609, in the first ever sighting of a North American lake monster. But this apocryphal tale has been traced back to a mistaken account made by a reporter in 1960. It seems that Champlain did, in fact, spot a strange aquatic monster, but the location was off the coast of the St. Lawrence estuary, and not the lake that bears the explorer's name. Probably the earliest known report of a monster in Lake Champlain came from pioneer settlers near Port Henry, NY, in 1819. A railroad crew near Dresden, NY, in 1873 claimed to see "a head of an enormous serpent sticking out of the water and approaching them from the opposite shore." Following that sighting, area farmers reported missing livestock along with supposed drag marks stretching across the ground to the shore of the lake. That same year, P. T. Barnum offered a $50,000 reward for any monster hunter who could bring him the "hide of the great Champlain serpent to add to my mammoth World's Fair Show." Barnum had no takers, but the sightings continued. In 1883, Clinton County Sheriff Nathan Mooney said he saw "an enormous snake or water serpent... 25 to 30 feet in length," which raised its long, curved neck about five feet out of the water. A group of fishermen in 1899 claimed to witness the creature partially climbing onto the shore, exposing about six feet of its finned body. In 1945 a man claimed to have caught a 14-inch "baby sea serpent" at the lake, but it is thought to have been a salamander. The most famous sighting of Champ in recent times was made in July 1977 by Sandra Mansi, who was vacationing in Vermont near the Canadian border. When she and her husband saw what appeared to be the head and long neck of a huge creature, she managed to grab a camera and take one picture before it vanished. Expert analysis of the Mansi photograph (shown on this page) has concluded that the image was not faked or retouched, and it has been widely speculated that the animal shown is a plesiosaur, the same prehistoric species often proposed as Nessie's true identity. Along more realistic lines, some suggest that the apparent head and neck might actually be the fin of a small whale rolling on its side. The credibility of the photo has also been hindered by Mansi's inability to indicate the area from which she took the picture. Former teacher Joseph W. Zarzynski is the founder of the Lake Champlain Phenomenon Investigation, and the leading authority on Champ for the past twenty years. Zarzynski, who says there has been a total of over 300 Champ sightings, has reported promising results from sonar and electronic surveillance of the lake, but nothing conclusive yet. He is so certain of the creature's reality that he has convinced local and state governments to grant Champ some select measures as a legally protected species. If there really are sea monsters living anywhere in the United States, Lake Champlain is about as ideal a habitat as anyone could ask for. It is vast in size, surpassed only by the Great Lakes, with depths of up to 400 feet. Champlain contains the populations of fish and aquatic life that would be necessary to sustain a colony of giant beasts, and with its outlet to the Atlantic, it could be home to a much wider diversity of unknown life than a small, isolated lake... such as Loch Ness. Champ Sighting I've seen better video on tv, but this is the only one I could find on the web. -oddguy :fuzcool: |
I've heard of that thing.It was in one of my paranormal books.And that picture you posted, I think that's a hoax.I bet it's a duck itching it's side or something.I've seen ducks do that before.
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Blech... that is so obviously fabricated. I mean, c'mon. You can see movement in the water where something is being pulled (second video). Really, people. A giant fish wouldn't have a path of choppy water in front of it extending way out into the lake.
Look at it again. It looks like a garbage bag being pulled through the water. "Is that a shark?!" lol. |
damn, you just had to ruin my fun eh?
I've heard of "Champ", as i'm quite a cryptozoologist myself. Many creatures with resemblance to loch ness have been spotted all over the world. Mostly in lakes though, which is strange. that champ video looks kinda fake, i mean it was probably two logs what hit eachother. |
I wish I could show you guys a better video of champ, but that crappy one was the only one I could find on the net. :fuzemb: I've seen way better videos of it on TV. Hmmmm, maybe I'll look some more and find a better video.
*runs off to Google* -oddguy :fuzcool: |
No picture can compare to the most famous photogragh of the Loch Ness Monster taken on April 19th 1934 by RK Wilson. It was claimed as a hoax in 1994, though some stand by its authenticity. Heres the famous picture make your assumption. Is it fake or is it real?
http://www.bibleandscience.com/scien...s/lockness.jpg And here is another intresting one where the man is pointing right at it. http://www.keithv.com/thumb/lock_ness_monster_small.jpg I for one don't believe this picture is a hoax it looks very athentic. I think this is an actual photogragh of this mysterious creature. I also believe in BigFoot because he belongs to a supposed family of primates known as Sasquatch. A type of Ape that lives in North America. That really doesnt seem far fetch. I believe there are a bunch of them but they are very shy creatures. Thats why you don't see them. |
Those videos look so incredibly fake.... imo.
The water ripples are too big in that water PA on the first photo, which makes either the LN too small or the water ripples too big. That second one could have been easily photoshoped by anybody, theres no reaction to light or anything that suggests it wet, but it's too far away which is why it could have been photoshoped with ease. It also has a slight blue, as if its moving incredibly fast... funny how the finger is perfectly pointing at it... |
Nice pictures paramiteabe.I'm not sure about that first one,it looks a little like a hoax to me.The second one (The man pointing at it) looks real.There are no seals,walrus,in Loch Ness.And that can't be a duck.A duck would be much smaller than that.
Oh yeah, and here are a couple of Bigfoot images. http://theshadowlands.net/bf4.gif The photograph shown here was taken from a still frame of a 16mm film camera. On October20, 1967, two men on horseback, Roger Patterson, who shot the film and Bob Gimlin, a friend, took to the northern Californian woods of Bluff Creek in the hopes of photographing one of these elusive creatures. They were not disappointed. In the late afternoon, Patterson and Gimlin encountered the creature. Patterson’s horse reared and knocked him to the ground. He quickly jumped up and ran toward the creature. It responded by simply walking away. Gimlin kept his friend covered with a rifle in case it attacked. It walked into the trees and vanished. The two men decided against following the creature thinking there maybe a confrontation with either it -or more of its kind that could be in the area. After it was filmed, many scientists dissected the footage. Some claim the film was indeed that of an unknown animal. Others claim it was merely a man in an obvious monkey suit. Over the years, rumors abounded that Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin hoaxed the whole incident. It even went further by saying that a special effects man named John Chambers, who designed the makeup in the Planet of the Apes movies, designed the suit. He has denied any involvement. Movie special effects people claim the film is just a man in a suit. Some scientists still cling to their belief that the film is authentic. Sadly, Roger Patterson died in 1972 of cancer. Did he go to his grave laughing? Or did he firmly believe at the time of his death that he had seen Bigfoot? In March of 1992, Bob Gimlin admitted that he might have been fooled. He gave thought to the possibility that Roger concocted the whole thing and Bob was an unknowing eyewitness to one of the most elaborate hoaxes in the world. http://theshadowlands.net/bf9.jpg This photo is one of several taken July 11, 1995 by an off-duty forest patrol officer in the Wild Creek area near Mt. Rainier. It is one of 7 other photos purchased from the officer by Bigfoot investigator Cliff Crook. The ranger was following up a lead on bear poachers in the area when he heard loud splashing sounds below him. He peeked over the ridge to investigate with camera in hand. Some of the photos are shaded and others are of excellent clarity. "No matter how convincing supposed Bigfoot photos or films may be, until the ultimate living proof is in, alleged Bigfoot photos and films must remain alleged. Only the true test of time will tell." - Cliff Crook http://theshadowlands.net/whitebf.jpg This is a picture of a white Bigfoot like creature sighted often in Fort Worth, Texas in 1969. http://theshadowlands.net/SKUNKAPE.jpg This photo was taken in 1997 by a fire fighter captain on the edge of the Florida Everglades. This bigfoot relative is known as the Skunkape in the Florida area. The Skunkape has been sighted numerous times and there have also been footprints found and cast. It gets it's nickname from the power stench that often accompanies it. Reported sightings of this creature go back 30 years. |
i have a site to put up too, if yall dont mind. its http://www.lochness.co.uk/livecam/ . hope the link works.
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http://www.keithv.com/thumb/lock_ness_monster_small.jpg
This picture looks sooo fake. Nothing against you PA, but it looks Photoshoped. And, as Esus pointed out, the man is pointing directly at it as if it from his perspective, but the cameraman is behind him....hmmm. -oddguy :fuzcool: |
I think the Jersey Devil myth is interesting aswell. I've read some articles about it and i believe its a fake that just won't go away, especially when one of the articles mentioned how they found its corpse, and then there was more sightings. And when one said that it appeared four times in different states and so it MUST be able to fly really fast...
Yeh, fakeness. |
A Bigfoot siting in Fort Worth? Alright, kiddies, I'm going in after it. Anyone care to join?
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oh, oh. Ill join!
Kinda far away, but for Big Foot.... hell yes! :p |
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How ironic that nearly every single one of these "creatures" lives in North America, yet are not accounted for by the natives... (except nessy)
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Well I just got that picture at random. The reason being is because if you notice the monster in the first one is black and almost looks like a shadow.
The one in the below picture where the man is pointing looks closely related to the one above by the fact it is black and looks like a shadow. The only difference is that the one on bottom has a shorter neck. Its probabally fake I agree. But the 1934 picture you have to remember was taken in a time when photoghaphy was not really great technologcally speaking. It was in its infant stages. The picture was taken high up in the hills above the lake plus it was taken in black and white. Which means every shadow would look bold and black. Nobody can really explane the famous picture which leads me to say it could be real. But I guess we will never know. Maybe the 1934 photogragh was taken with a 1934 styal low res camera which could too explane it bluryness. Who knows. But if there is any kind of monster in our world that scientifically truely exist. It would have to be The Giant Squid. Sperm Whales eat Giant Squid and one washed up on a shore years ago. A baby whiched measured more than 30ft in size. God knows how big a grown up is. |
As I said, in the 1934 photo, the water ripples are too big for it to be nessie. It's just a toy or a piece of card or something placed in a bit of water.
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Yes, and notice how the tide-waves are much bigger than the actual creature when in actual life tide-waves are very small.
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like I said before people doubt it is real but a selected few think it has a chance of maybe being real and thats a big maybe. Here is an intresting photogragh. I don't think this is real.
http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...quarium01b.jpg |
Now maybe if there was a good clear one that obviously wasn't photoshopped, but that picture could have been hoaxed to look like that ^ nearly one hundred years ago, thus I am sceptic.
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that picture was made by an infared camera or something. But yeh it looks pretty fake.
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It looks like a bad picture of one of those jarred fish.
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Sperm Whales eat the Giant squid but only for a specific point in their life when they need the most amount of fat in the arctic step in their migration, all this kaka about Sperm Whales being non-migratory is a crock of shit. http://is.dal.ca/~ceph/TCP/Archi.JPG The baby Inchateuthis displayed in this picture was 18 feet long. The Architeuthis Dux or Giant Squid is known to be up to about 40 feet in length, but this has only been finalised by a thorough but uncertain study of their smaller cousins Inchateuthis Dux (a baby Inchateuthis displayed in hence picture). Scientists--after studying beached parts of Archateuthis-- conclude that this beast could be up to 150-200 feet in length (including the tentacles)! Despite the size of these beasts no one has ever seen a whole one alive in its natural environment. If we can't even find a giant squid, think of how many smaller but just as interesting creatures are living out their lives undiscovered in the worlds oceans! Some of them can even be found in shallow water in the ocean near your home. To me, the giant squid represents many things. One of them is the shift of money, resources and scientific manpower towards the molecular and reductionist explanations that dominate present day biology. This has come at the expense of organismal biology, natural history, systematics and other fields of basic biology. If we are an intelligent species, shouldn't we put more effort into finding out everything we can about our environment and the animals that live in it? Aren't basic questions like "What is it?, How long does it live? What does it eat?" just as important? Isn't it surprising that somewhere out there is a 60 foot long beast that no human has ever seen alive in its natural habitat? Doesn't this suggest that there are a lot of creatures, especially invertebrates, out their in rainforests and coral reefs and maybe even your own backyard that nothing or almost nothing is known about? Anyway, I don't think that those waves or any of that were caused by a giant squid, they wouldn't be driven from their deep home unless they were disturbed by a large bomb (hydrogen in mind) and even if they were disturbed they would not come so close to this surface. |
Here is a link that has some Nessie photographs.Click the next button for Loch Ness Monster pictures,and previous for Bigfoot images.
http://www.consumptive.org/weblog/crypto/igopogo.html |
that was a very good site Jacob. it didnt include the Chupacabra or Trunko though...
the Kasai Rex is very interesting. you have to realise that there could be whole colonies of creatures in loch ness, Cahmplain etc etc. Ion Jacobs site it showed that pleaseosaur bones have been found in Loch Ness! is there such thing as a "pirahna squid"? or was it a fake article that i read? Megaladon, dead or alive? Disscuss. |
Another Giant that lives with us is the Great White Shark. a True killing machine. But did you know that the Great Whites Cousin Charcharodon Megalodon could eat a small car? This was truely Jaws and a monster of the ocieans of the world. Here is a picture of this shark's teeth compared to the Great White.
http://www.sharkattacks.com/images/amos/Image44.gif I like this photogragh of the the entire jaws of this beast that roamed the seas during early days of man. But as it says in the photo its jaw is not quite up to scale. But thats what modern day Scientists claim. They could have been different sizes. But still this beast was huge and I am sure nobody would dare go swimming in the ocieans with this thing out and about. Its scary because we don't know whats out there that live in the deep ocieans of the world. Quite possibly there could be something worse than this beast. rather disturbing don't you think? http://www.sharkattacks.com/images/amos/Image43.gif Some 12 000 years ago, at about the time when mammoths became extinct, humans who ventured into the sea faced the possibility of meeting the largest fish- eating shark that has ever lived -a close relative of the great white. Estimates vary for the length of Carcharodon megalodon -as this monster has been named -but the most realistic seem to agree on a figure of between 12 and 15 m (40 and 50 ft), with a weight of around 20 tonnes. Teeth from this giant shark -some measuring up to 152 mm (6 in) in length, and weighing 340 g (12 oz) -are"commonly found in Palaeocene sediments from around the world. Many have also been dredged from the sea floor. Nobody can be sure exactly when megalodon became extinct, and some optimists have even claimed that isolated specimens may still exist in the ocean depths today. Most scientists, however, dismiss this possibility out of hand. |
i still think there are some out there. Hell, we know more about the moon then we do about the sea. Something that big wont just die out.
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I knew this elderly chap that had really bad cancer and he was on the verge of death. He worked for the government most of his life, so now that he was dying, he didn't care about what he told me. For instance, he'd been to Area 51 and said that it didn't have much alien stuff. He said Area 51 was something to distract the public while actual alien stuff was going on at Area 49. He didn't tell me where it was, but I know this guy wouldn't make stuff up. Anyway, the reason I bring this up is because my old friend says that the govermnet has underwater bases deep under the sea. He was stationed there for a while. Anyway, old guy friend of mine had a tatoo of this fierce looking sea creature that I'd never seen before. I asked him if that was something he saw while at the underwater base. He said, "Yes. His name is 'Satan of the deep'." So I totally believe in these mammoth sea beasts.
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Loch Ness, bigfoot, The Jersy Devil, and UFOs do not belong to the world of reality. They belong to the batshit-crazy world of tabloids and thats were I want them to stay. Right next to the article about Elvis being spotted at a Denny's.
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