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mitsur 11-14-2003 10:22 PM

After Death
 
What do you think will happen after death? Will it be just eternal darkness and silence(As horrible as it sounds)? Or is their really life after death?

Personally, based on my religous beliefs, I think you going to go to Heaven with God and Jesus, or go to Hell, with Satan :devil:.

What do you think?

Abe16 11-14-2003 11:33 PM

1st:I know for a fact that you will go to heavev or hell. 2:Jesus is three persons God,Jesus, and the holy sperit. Case closed.

oddguy 11-14-2003 11:47 PM

Beware! :eek: I fear Jacob will be shoiwng up very soon to say something or other.

I believe in life after death very strongly. I mean, If there was no life after death, what would be the point of this life?

-oddguy:fuzcool:

Mac the Janitor 11-15-2003 12:18 AM

I believe that there is nothing after death. What we consider living, or being aware/conscious, is just chemical and electrical reactions within our brains. When you die, your brain stops functioning, and you are no longer aware. You do not respond to or take in these stimuli anymore. Technically we are still here after death, since our bodies stay here wether we're dead or not, we just do not respond to any stimuli anymore. "The Afterlife" is nothingness...you basically stop existing and thinking altogether. You aren't aware of anything anymore.

I don't mean to upset anyone or anything...these are just my opinions...my beliefs. I don't mean to force it on anyone or say that this is THE afterlife, THE truth. Nobody can ever know what happens to us when we die.

Joshy 11-15-2003 02:31 AM

After death, everyone goes into this giant room with a huge bed on it. Upon entering, all your clothes will dissapear and everyone will have a giant orgy in the middle. This will continue for the rest of eternity.... Celebrities will also be there such as Cameron Diaz... Kristin Dunst....

oddguy 11-15-2003 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by Mac the Janitor
I believe that there is nothing after death. What we consider living, or being aware/conscious, is just chemical and electrical reactions within our brains. When you die, your brain stops functioning, and you are no longer aware. You do not respond to or take in these stimuli anymore. Technically we are still here after death, since our bodies stay here wether we're dead or not, we just do not respond to any stimuli anymore. "The Afterlife" is nothingness...you basically stop existing and thinking altogether. You aren't aware of anything anymore.

I don't mean to upset anyone or anything...these are just my opinions...my beliefs. I don't mean to force it on anyone or say that this is THE afterlife, THE truth. Nobody can ever know what happens to us when we die.

That is scientificly correct, but if I followed my life and beliefs by science(which is something us humans created) I wouldn't believe in God.

-oddguy:fuzcool:

mitsur 11-15-2003 04:07 AM

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Originally posted by Mac the Janitor
I believe that there is nothing after death. What we consider living, or being aware/conscious, is just chemical and electrical reactions within our brains. When you die, your brain stops functioning, and you are no longer aware. You do not respond to or take in these stimuli anymore. Technically we are still here after death, since our bodies stay here wether we're dead or not, we just do not respond to any stimuli anymore. "The Afterlife" is nothingness...you basically stop existing and thinking altogether. You aren't aware of anything anymore.

I don't mean to upset anyone or anything...these are just my opinions...my beliefs. I don't mean to force it on anyone or say that this is THE afterlife, THE truth. Nobody can ever know what happens to us when we die.

Then what? You get reincarnated or just nothing. No human can even imagine that. Darkness....you can't even know you are there. You can't even THINK. You would be insane from the nothing, but sane because you simply can't go insane because of no thought to become insane. To cut it short its a living paradox. There HAS to be something. I still belive in life after death.

Facsimile 11-15-2003 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by Abe16
1st:I know for a fact that you will go to heavev or hell. 2:Jesus is three persons God,Jesus, and the holy sperit. Case closed.
Hahaha. Not meaning to start a debate but the way that was written was rather humorous.

I agree with Mac, and have for quite some time. Although I wish there was a place to go or something once dead, I believe that there will be nothing. Less than nothing, really.

Al the Vykker 11-15-2003 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Mac the Janitor
I believe that there is nothing after death. What we consider living, or being aware/conscious, is just chemical and electrical reactions within our brains. When you die, your brain stops functioning, and you are no longer aware. You do not respond to or take in these stimuli anymore. Technically we are still here after death, since our bodies stay here wether we're dead or not, we just do not respond to any stimuli anymore. "The Afterlife" is nothingness...you basically stop existing and thinking altogether. You aren't aware of anything anymore.

I don't mean to upset anyone or anything...these are just my opinions...my beliefs. I don't mean to force it on anyone or say that this is THE afterlife, THE truth. Nobody can ever know what happens to us when we die.

I respect your opinion. But IMO (First off I do believe in God, and Jesus, etc. Im a Catholic.) I dont really want to get into a large religion debate here, but I feel that leaves this universe a little too unexplained. In fact it just leaves everything, all the unseen forces in this world unexplained.

I could go on for hours about what I believe happens after death, and things I have read that make sense, etc. But I dont really feel comfortable nor do I have the time to speak of them.

Silversnow 11-15-2003 12:56 PM

I believe in reincarnation. I think all beings have a soul that goes from body to body after the death to learn new things.

The Red Muse 11-15-2003 01:40 PM

Meh,
I'll prob. go to hell for being a bitch... yup!

Prepare yourself, Lucifer-- the Lord of the Underworld (or something...), for Henna is coming back home...!

O_o;;

Mojo 11-15-2003 02:47 PM

I see afterlife as sleeping. I mean, you don't know you're sleeping until you wake up. But you will never wake up when yer dead.

Jacob 11-15-2003 04:22 PM

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1st:I know for a fact that you will go to heavev or hell.
Stop being such a semential stain.

I believe one of two things -

We either go into a new life, just the same as this one, but more spiritual...or something.

We go to what we believe in. As in, somebody believes in reincarnation, they go and get reincarnated. Somebody believes they die and thats it, thats what happens to them. Somebody believes in Heaven and Hell, well, they'll either go to Heaven or Hell.

I can't imagine a nothing after death, it'd just be weird.

mitsur 11-15-2003 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob

I can't imagine a nothing after death, it'd just be weird.

I can't beleive i'm saying this, but for the first and probably ONLY TIME I agree with you Jacob.

Hobo 11-15-2003 07:21 PM

The only reason that we cannot actually imagine a nothing after death is that the human mind is un-able to comprehend it's own non-existance, thus spawing religion's after-lifes theories.

*hides as debate begins*

Fez 11-15-2003 07:33 PM

i believe in rencaration. Why? because i may have been a soldier in my past life. As i didnt really learn half the nfo i know, i grew up knowing it.

lindsey 11-15-2003 10:15 PM

ok this is what I think. When you die your conscions leaves the body and then it becomes that thing everyone calls ghost. Leaving your conscions to wander forever or if one the other hand if you want to not be with the living anymore you go to the idea Mac came up with. My more crazy idea is that we all live in are own word and when we die every other thing go's with you. Its like a game you are made with other things but you are the only one with a conscions and every one is made to do the things they do. If you die from like a car crash it was made to hapen but that is just a strange idea I came up with at school as my techer blabers on.

nads 11-16-2003 12:02 AM

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1st:I know for a fact that you will go to heavev or hell. 2:Jesus is three persons God,Jesus, and the holy sperit. Case closed.
1. how in all hell do you know that? you're as dumb as a stump! Got any proof?
2. Jesus is God's son dumbass.

Joshy 11-16-2003 02:51 AM

I have another theory, after we die, we would still be concious because of our spirit. But because we are buried in the ground, or cremented and ur ash in an urn. Our souls would be trapped in there for eternity. We would live the rest of etenity in a black space.

Mac the Janitor 11-16-2003 03:29 AM

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Originally posted by hobo
The only reason that we cannot actually imagine a nothing after death is that the human mind is un-able to comprehend it's own non-existance, thus spawing religion's after-lifes theories.

Exactly. When the human race cannot comprehend a concept, they make up a farfetched explanation and call it truth. That's how we've got religion. Think about back in the stone age. What do you think early humans thought when they saw lightning and heard thunder? Loud noise, big boom. They didn't know what the heck was going on, so they most likely thought that the gods were angry at them. Or something.

Majic 11-16-2003 03:35 AM

I really don't want to form an opion, not just online, but in real life either. Death is one thing that will NEVER be comprehended, no matter what. Case closed.

I hate to form wrong opinions, and I could care less about what happens after I die. Eternal darkness is fine, because I know i wouldn't be comprending. An afterlife is fine, because I don't believe in a heaven/hell scenario. I imagine an afterlife, if any, could be like this one. You die here, your born there. You die there, your born in another life, etc...

Facsimile 11-16-2003 04:12 AM

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Originally posted by lindsey
My more crazy idea is that we all live in are own word and when we die every other thing go's with you. Its like a game you are made with other things but you are the only one with a conscions and every one is made to do the things they do. If you die from like a car crash it was made to hapen but that is just a strange idea I came up with
Holy shit... I think the exact same thing. That everyone else is just here to entertain, train, teach, me things, and that everything is made for me. So when I die, it will all be over for everyone, but they won't know it because they aren't really a 'person', just a program, or script for me to interact with. I usually don't share my theory as people don't like me thinking of myself as the center of the existence and them as nothing.
That has to be the smartest thing lindsey has ever said.

lindsey 11-16-2003 05:13 AM

Im blushing:blush: im wondering what it is like to die of old age siting there body slowly stoping.

Hobo 11-16-2003 07:28 AM

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Originally posted by Mac the Janitor
Exactly. When the human race cannot comprehend a concept, they make up a farfetched explanation and call it truth. That's how we've got religion. Think about back in the stone age. What do you think early humans thought when they saw lightning and heard thunder? Loud noise, big boom. They didn't know what the heck was going on, so they most likely thought that the gods were angry at them. Or something.
Exactly. And Religion was also formed by early governments as a law structure. For example: The 10 commandments were just a way of stopping crime, because if people think that they're going to pay for it with their souls, they're not going to do it, or so the theory goes.

Seargentbig 11-16-2003 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by Facsimile(And lindsey)
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Originally posted by lindsey
ok this is what I think. When you die your conscions leaves the body and then it becomes that thing everyone calls ghost. Leaving your conscions to wander forever or if one the other hand if you want to not be with the living anymore you go to the idea Mac came up with. My more crazy idea is that we all live in are own word and when we die every other thing go's with you. Its like a game you are made with other things but you are the only one with a conscions and every one is made to do the things they do. If you die from like a car crash it was made to hapen but that is just a strange idea I came up with at school as my techer blabers on.
Holy shit... I think the exact same thing. That everyone else is just here to entertain, train, teach, me things, and that everything is made for me. So when I die, it will all be over for everyone, but they won't know it because they aren't really a 'person', just a program, or script for me to interact with. I usually don't share my theory as people don't like me thinking of myself as the center of the existence and them as nothing.
That has to be the smartest thing lindsey has ever said.

We shouldn't get started on that one, because then there'll be a big debate about who the real person is. Then the conflict will escalate, and eventualy we will have a possible World War 3, 4, or 6 through to 17.

Alcar 11-16-2003 09:21 AM

I don't know what happens in the afterlife, the word is misleading in itself. I'd like to think there is something after we die, but that's because I'd not like to leave this world.

I get a 'feeling' through my body and mind when I seriously think about it. I also get the same 'feeling' when I think about how many hours I'm wasting by sleeping.

I would like to be with my family, though.

Alcar...

Jacob 11-16-2003 06:36 PM

I think Lindseys and Fax's theory is quite thooper and would be better if true. Like, we become moulded into creatures of despair/happiness through our own actions and how we interact with the world around us. And then the next "level" is nastier/nicer depending on our actions on the prior level.

paramiteabe 11-17-2003 04:24 AM

There is an afterlife and there is a Heven and a Hell. These places are real and well you don't have to believe me but they do exist. As God as my wittness they exist. Throughout my life I have had expierences which made me sort of understand the truth than how I was when I was younger. When my grandfather died years ago the night after he died I couldn't sleep. I felt a sudden rush of cold air and a presence among me and I had goose bumps. Honest to god I saw an outline of what it appeared to be my grandfather telling me that everything is just fine. Ever since I know that the after life truely exist. I am also a Catholic and well that strengthens my belief. when someone dies. don't weep by that grave for it is merely a bag of bones. That person is not there. For that person is alive. Heven and Hell is not what you think it is. In this new age the generation tend to think that we become individual gods when we pass they don't believe that there is only one God whome exist outside of us.

The Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are three as one God.

oddguy 11-17-2003 05:11 AM

Another religion.....thingy. I've stated my opinion before on this matter, but it doesn't seem to reach anyone, so I see no point in defending myself. May I just say that I don't judge those that don't share my beliefs. I still love you kids!:D

-oddguy:fuzcool:

Alcar 11-17-2003 06:05 AM

Only the stupid judge people on the accessories they carry. I don't judge anyone by accessories, I judge them by their heart.

Alcar...

Jacob 11-17-2003 11:36 AM

PA, according to your religion when a person dies they go to Heaven. If you're lucky enough you'll have a near death experience and see them in Heaven. They DO NOT come back down to earth to tell you random things such as "It'll be okay, Luke, the force is with you." no, they don't. They stay in Heaven and watch over you.

Obviously, this contradicts all Christians and God-like peeps who have seen their deceased people mill around among us.

However, this does back up one of my theories [that we just go onto a next life] due to the fact that this means that the deceased are just in another plane of existance and, at specific times, can breach from their world to ours.

And can people please stop stating their theories as if its fact, you may believe you have evidence, but you don't, its your faith thats the evidence and faith means nothing when it comes down to solid facts.

Do a Ouija board, find out the truth...

paramiteabe 11-17-2003 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
PA, according to your religion when a person dies they go to Heaven. If you're lucky enough you'll have a near death experience and see them in Heaven. They DO NOT come back down to earth to tell you random things such as "It'll be okay, Luke, the force is with you." no, they don't. They stay in Heaven and watch over you.

Obviously, this contradicts all Christians and God-like peeps who have seen their deceased people mill around among us.

However, this does back up one of my theories [that we just go onto a next life] due to the fact that this means that the deceased are just in another plane of existance and, at specific times, can breach from their world to ours.

And can people please stop stating their theories as if its fact, you may believe you have evidence, but you don't, its your faith thats the evidence and faith means nothing when it comes down to solid facts.

Do a Ouija board, find out the truth...

In your mind they contact you in that way. In the phisical sense they werant really there. I tend to believe that spirits use our dreams to talk to us since they can't phisically talk to us. So its logical to assume that there really is an existence after life when you belong to a faith that teaches that.

mitsur 11-17-2003 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by paramiteabe
There is an afterlife and there is a Heven and a Hell. These places are real and well you don't have to believe me but they do exist. As God as my wittness they exist. Throughout my life I have had expierences which made me sort of understand the truth than how I was when I was younger. When my grandfather died years ago the night after he died I couldn't sleep. I felt a sudden rush of cold air and a presence among me and I had goose bumps. Honest to god I saw an outline of what it appeared to be my grandfather telling me that everything is just fine. Ever since I know that the after life truely exist. I am also a Catholic and well that strengthens my belief. when someone dies. don't weep by that grave for it is merely a bag of bones. That person is not there. For that person is alive. Heven and Hell is not what you think it is. In this new age the generation tend to think that we become individual gods when we pass they don't believe that there is only one God whome exist outside of us.

The Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are three as one God.


Right on Pari!*makes a "V" with fingers*


I beleive when you die you come before God and only those who beleive in him can look him straight in the eye. If you don't, God will know you don't accept him and you go to hell. Some of you might be thinking, "Why the hell would such a loving God send us to hell?" Thats an easy one. You had your whole life to try to accept him and you screwed up. So to bad


P.S. Whoa! I accutally made a topic thats popular for once!

Jacob 11-17-2003 07:15 PM

The appearing in dreams would make sense, but who's to say its not just your head creating that?

I still think people should do Ouija boards if they want to know the truth. Which is what i am going to do when i find people who aren't pussy's...

oddguy 11-17-2003 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by mitsur
P.S. Whoa! I accutally made a topic thats popular for once!
Say anything that could be connected to religion, and you've got a popular topic my friend!:D Anyway, as with departed loved ones visiting in dreams, I believe it is true. There are many recored cases of this occuring, as well as some personal experiences that me and my family have had. I have testimony that God is true and I'm not ashamed of Him. Of course, I see how people could think we religious types are a little crazy. There are some people out there that say they talk to God and feel His power and then go out and murder someone because they say "God" told them to do it. I really hate it when this happens because it is used against those that are actually following God. But remember, thou shalt not kill is a commandment, so the wackos out there couldn't really be following God if they said He told them to kill someone.

-oddguy:fuzcool:

Dipstikk 11-17-2003 08:08 PM

The thought of seacing to exist really frightens me. I mean, we get so used to life, external stimuli, whatever, and then what? We just fizzle out like some matchstick in the wind? I mean, I've heard the saying "life isn't fair," but LIFE REALLY ISN'T FAIR!

I used to have panic attacks where I'd run to my mom screaming "I don't want to die!"

Now for some reason, the panic attacks are re-occuring. I don't go to Mom anymore, but it gets harder to understand that death, in whatever form it may come in, is indeed inevitable.

I wonder what my opinion would be like about 40 years from now?

Cloverfield 11-18-2003 05:30 AM

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Originally posted by Jacob
I still think people should do Ouija boards if they want to know the truth. Which is what i am going to do when i find people who aren't pussy's...
Those are just so bad!!! I'd never go near one. Although you're an evil guy Jacob, so that makes sense you would want to use one. ;)

It's just that I used to know someone that was into all that crap. And they were sure that the Earth would tilt in May by some rough planet cause the Ouija board told him it would. And like duh! we are still here now. So they don't always tell you the truth. I never had any problems w/ this person until he started getting into that crap ... and well, it went downhill from there.

Abe Babe...

Surfacing 11-18-2003 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
Which is what i am going to do when i find people who aren't pussy's...
Why, too afraid to do it yourself?

Jacob 11-18-2003 06:19 PM

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Why, too afraid to do it yourself?
I didn't know you could, i thought you had to have atleast two for it to work.

oddguy 11-18-2003 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Abe Babe
Those are just so bad!!! I'd never go near one. Although you're an evil guy Jacob, so that makes sense you would want to use one. ;)

It's just that I used to know someone that was into all that crap. And they were sure that the Earth would tilt in May by some rough planet cause the Ouija board told him it would. And like duh! we are still here now. So they don't always tell you the truth. I never had any problems w/ this person until he started getting into that crap ... and well, it went downhill from there.

Abe Babe...

I've never touched a Ouija board, but an aquaintance of mine used one before and it freaked him out. He asked a question and it spelled out "C-U-N-H-E-L-L." Quite puzzled he was until he figured out it meant "see you in hell."

-oddguy:fuzcool: