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paramiteabe 08-18-2003 03:53 AM

An election for new Mods!
 
I feel that we need to have another election for modship on the forums. Does anybody agree with me here?

No offense Mods but I think there are a lot of worthy members here that deserve to be Mods and I think they should. why does the power have to always be in your hands? can't we have someone take their turn as a Mod and then have new elections every year for someone else to be a Mod? If this forum is for the people I stand by that all the way. Abe Babe and Pilot had a vision makeing a forum where the members are involved not just Mods. And if you ask me I believe some of the power has been abused in the last year. I am not pointing any fingers I am just saying maybe we should have new elections. What do you think? Mods are you willing to give up your powers and have someone else be able to expierence it? Its only a suggestion. Think about it. We can have rules you can be a Mod twice just like the U.S presidancy. A presidant can serve up to two terms. We could do the same with the forums a member can serve as a Mod up to two years and then pass the power onto someone else. Its only suggestion.


I propose that we should have Mod elections once a year so this place does not become a dictatorship. I am for the people mann!

Joshy 08-18-2003 04:41 AM

Yes... this is about the right time... hehhehe.... so can we vote for people to be mods?

Well i say Max for GD ^^

Alcar 08-18-2003 05:14 AM

I'm planning on appointing new Moderators when or near the release of Steefs Oddworld game. We might appoint a new Mod for General Discussion earlier, but I haven't discussed that with Abe Babe or anything at the moment.

Oh? Max for GD? Pffft, never will he get GD :p

Alcar...

oddguy 08-18-2003 05:57 AM

Not a bad suggestion paramiteabe. I think that would also promote members to be better, because if anyone wants to be a mod, they'd have to show that they can keep the rules. I like it! :fuzgrin:

Xavier 08-18-2003 02:38 PM

Max for GD... but I stay where I am

Al the Vykker 08-18-2003 05:41 PM

Whats really wrong with our current staff. The power abuse was before our time.

I had a feeling the past couple months that people would want to try and remove us. Though this is a democratic forum, we have only been mods for about a year now. A presidents term is four years, and other postions such as representatives, etc. can be even longer. Not to mention justices or judges.

My opinion maybe for GD appoint only two mods there Instead of having like five people all moderate it.

So it could be Xavier and _______new moderator
same for small subforums like non oddworld art have DI and ______, difference would myself and Alector still be able to moderate it but not be listed with the two main mods, and just be listed as the FC mods. Also RPG seems to be un moderated or atleast it was for a while since Rexy was gone for a while, so it would be fine to have a new person who is really involved there be appointed to help her out. Also since Alector has been gone its been hard for me to get the FC contests up and running like I had planned, so I could use a new assistant.

I also noticed under spoiler forum and help theres only one moderator, and its Alcar. Yes hes a super mod so he can moderate the other stuff, plus he would still be listed for it but a new person could also be mod. Spoiler forum someone who could be a normal mod such as Khanz, or for help someone also really experienced for it. Same goes for Non oddworld art as I said, you could add new people along with DI such as PA or other people really talented in art, and who came close to moderating it before.

Of course its up to the higher ups what to do with us.

I just dont really think we should have to resign yet, most moderators are in place until they are either forced to resign because of problems or abusing their power, or the ones who dont have time anymore. So far, I still have plenty of time to be here because I am scheduled with my other work so I can find time to complete my duties here effectively. Just fill in the gaps that could use a new mod/mods, or replace those who can no longer fulfill their duties.

Id like to also add that we dont have much real power here, we just have titles that say we are mods, and we can just use our updated options for our appointed duties. If you wanted higher power you would have to be an admin or super mod, they can do all kinds of other stuff and ban people. Us normal mods dont have any more say then you do because we are in a sense your voice to the higherstaff, we just try to enforce the rules of this place. The view pilot and Abe Babe had was to make a great forum that was democratic also in the sense that their was no real huge advantage of being a mod, compared to a normal member.

This is not a dicatorship, nor is it going to be anytime soon.

Thats just my opinion.

Mac the Janitor 08-18-2003 09:26 PM

I don't really see a problem with the mods we have right now. The only thing I'd suggest is putting Max as a mod for GD, but still keeping Xavier as a mod. Max seems like he really deserves it.

Majic 08-18-2003 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by Mac the Janitor
I don't really see a problem with the mods we have right now. The only thing I'd suggest is putting Max as a mod for GD, but still keeping Xavier as a mod. Max seems like he really deserves it.
I'd pretty much have to agree with that.

Thers really not a reason right now, but when Steef comes out, there will probably be a need. Your right, there ARE other deserving people, buttheres not the need to either put them in right now, plus, putting up more elections would take some time, and work (which would most likely fall on Abe Babe, who stays busy, or Alcar, who is as smart as a retard in a coma:)).

If I ever come up wit h too busy a schedual, or see someone who really wants to be a mod and deserves it more than the others, I wouldn't really mind giving it away.

*cringe* Sore feet from marching band... Ugh.

Abe16 08-19-2003 01:26 AM

I agree that some of our honerable members will maybe have a chance to be a mod.So how do you start do you have say:"I'll join!" to start?or does someone pick the people?Olease Replie.

Alcar 08-19-2003 04:34 AM

Majic summed it up best. I was planning on creating a new Moderator for General Discussion when Steef was released, or sometime near the release.

The Moderator I have in mind is the same person I've had in mind since last year. However, Abe Babe still has to make the decision with me.

Alcar...

oddguy 08-19-2003 04:39 AM

Looks like I'm outta the running! :crying:

Hobo 08-19-2003 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by Al the Vykker


Also RPG seems to be un moderated or atleast it was for a while since Rexy was gone for a while, so it would be fine to have a new person who is really involved there be appointed to help her out.


The RPG forum, is practically dead. There are three or four main, "seasoned" Roleplayers(If i must name them, Dripik,The red Muse,Myself and PA) who don't quit, and do everything correctly, the rest are either spamming, breaking rules or quitting after they join.

Facsimile 08-19-2003 07:17 AM

That's because it's *slaps hand across mouth*.

paramiteabe 08-19-2003 01:25 PM

Well I have been ignoring the RPG because it is dead. Though just reciently I started something new in there but it seems nobody is joining it accept Hobo so I guess I will wait.

We do need new mods and I hope Alcar appoints some around the time of Steef.

Hey Oddguy I have msn instant messenger pm me.

Cloverfield 08-19-2003 02:51 PM

I actually bought up the need for a new RPG mod a while back, but it kind of got lost somewhere. No offense to Rexy, but she is young, and would need someone to take on a more organizational role in that forum, and she could assist. If anyone has some nominations for RPG mods, perhaps you can put them here.

As for other forums, they seem fine as they are at the moment, everyone seems to be doing their jobs well, but if anyone wants to input any specific examples (without flaming or being nasty of course) feedback is always welcome.

Abe Babe...

dripik 08-19-2003 03:13 PM

A new RPG moderator? I always wondered what's a moderator's job at OWF?

Hobo 08-19-2003 04:15 PM

Yeah, your best choices for RP (ie. people who visit it alot) are Myself, The red muse, Paramiteabe, and Dripik.
I don't see any moderation in Non-oddworld art and lit. If it is going on, and I'm just being blind, just say, but shouldn't we need a new mod there, I mean, Jacob, or fez, would fit the job perfectly

Fez 08-19-2003 04:31 PM

yeah i think hobo would be a greta RPG mod...now whers my money.


and er...me for non-oddworld art and lit.

spike 247 08-19-2003 04:37 PM

Yeh I was thinking of two people that could be posible MOD's for the RPG Forum. Hobo and dripik.

Rex Tirano 08-19-2003 05:32 PM

Yeah the rpg forum is a bit *uses word fax was gonna use* But thats cos we have 4 member there. I think we probably need a new mo there to help me or the thing which I know you all think of but I don't want to say.

MAX FOR GD!

XIOU AND AL FOR ADMIN/SUPERMOD.

But otherwise I think its great! :D

(p.s
Abebabe....
No offence taken :D)

Wil 08-19-2003 07:40 PM

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Joshy:
Well i say Max for GD ^^
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Xav:
Max for GD...
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Mac:
The only thing I'd suggest is putting Max as a mod for GD, but still keeping Xavier as a mod. Max seems like he really deserves it.
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Dave:
I'd pretty much have to agree with that.
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Hobo:
Yes, Max really rocks my socks and most definitely needs to become a moderator of General Discussion.
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Rexy:
MAX FOR GD!
I love you all!

Xavier 08-19-2003 08:07 PM

*Is a little bit afraid for his job*
please keep me aswel

OANST 08-19-2003 10:36 PM

A year is long enough to be a mod before new elections. This is much more short term then the presidency. We need an election. There is corruption in the mods. Not all. Just some. Mods should also not be able to dictate when we have elections.

Majic 08-19-2003 11:04 PM

Corruption? No offense, but I just never seem to notice it. Old age must be gaining on me, I'm rusty.

But I do think mods should get a vote for when elections should be held. An equalistic vote, too. For instance, theres a poll made where we all vote. Most liley in another forum, where only Abe Babe/Alcar are a mod at (admin and S mod). That a way, none of our corrupted mods can edit it if it was in their forum, and only one vote could be given per peron.

But no matter what people, just count on Abe Babe/Alcar being the Admin/S mod. Honestly, their 2 of the few, if any, people here who understand everything about the forums. Theres more to being a super mod or admin then just a regular mod, most likely none of us could succesfully handle. IE bugs, problems, changing the layouts, etc...

Alcar 08-20-2003 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by Majic
But no matter what people, just count on Abe Babe/Alcar being the Admin/S mod. Honestly, their 2 of the few, if any, people here who understand everything about the forums. Theres more to being a super mod or admin then just a regular mod, most likely none of us could succesfully handle. IE bugs, problems, changing the layouts, etc...
Wow Dave, I didn't think you had it in you to admit you are a lesser being than me :p

RPG only needs one Moderator. GD is fine at the moment, and every other forum is fine as well. Although, Max will never recieve Moderator for any forum. He's far too nice :p

Xavier, I doubt you'll ever be kicked off. Many people I talk to, when talking about General Discussion comment on your high level of leadership.

Alcar...

Oddsville 08-20-2003 12:55 AM

Well I'd like to be a mod of anything. Im not trying to promote myself, just...ok Im trying to promote myself; but hey I need some way to over throw Alcar!!

Sekto Springs 08-20-2003 02:04 AM

thats the spirit oddsvile, overthrow alcar and save the forums

Al the Vykker 08-20-2003 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by old and not so tasty
A year is long enough to be a mod before new elections. This is much more short term then the presidency. We need an election. There is corruption in the mods. Not all. Just some. Mods should also not be able to dictate when we have elections.
Well I dont think your talking about me. I am feeling a bit on edge about whether people think I am abusing my power, when I dont think I ever have. But please dont get me wrong, I didnt want to appear trying to dictate when the elections were to take place, I just feel that atleast some of us mods are doing our jobs well, and was also stating something about term lengths.

Ive had a lot of people PM or talk to me saying thanks for being nice or trying to mediate an arguement, or mention that I'm not one of the people that have abused my power here.

I feel ive been doing a pretty good job, and nobody has really ever expressed any problems about the way I do things, and I usually am always nice and respectful to all the forum members. :( Plus theres a lot of cool things I still am trying to get going for FC, that I just need a little bit more time on, and if I were to havea to go after this year, these things will never be able to fully be explored and incorporated into the forums as I had planned, and was trying to accomplish.

Hope that clears some things up though if you were wondering what I was trying to say earlier. :fuzsmile:

I personally could use a new assistant mod for Fan Corner, Alector is a great person, but she seems to never be here and then show up one day and then shes gone again for three months, and Im sure its probably school related having to focus more on studies.

But Ive been able to moderate and keep things under control and try and keep everyone happy over in FC but its been really hard to get my conceived contests up and off the ground without Alector around. I really am in dire need of a new assistand mod over there. But I guess I'll just try and discuss this whole thing with her.

Well whenver this new vote will take place I definately have a person in mind that would be perfect as the other fan corner mod and he is here enough like me that we can actually get the contests started and hosted on a new site we are creating, plus hes got a great art background here, and actively participates a lot in FC and all around the forum, and has been doing so for a long time.

Theres always the chance to create new openings, if we were to expand. I know theres a lot of people who are against having more forum sections but it could help too, not just for giving other people new mod spots instead of just kicking the other ones out, but we could add new sections for offtopic for specific discussions there, debate forum areas, gaming forums that way topics containing halo or final fantasy dont have to be closed if there are too many. Its just another suggestion and I thought I would put it out there for debate too.

Abe16 08-20-2003 02:34 AM

I vote for Abeguy because he's my friend on OWF *Starts making banner for Abeguy*

Joshy 08-20-2003 04:53 AM

Well i think this election of a new mod is not replacing the old mods...

Just like we would never replace Xav from GD... heheh....
So prolly like Xav and Max for GD like that...

For RPG, maybe The Red Muse....

Ok for the next Adminstrator, i think we need a strong, smart, intelligent, handsome, funny, chrismatic and Godlike person... and the whole forum i have only found 1 person with that qualitiy..... of course that person would be me :p who other to become adminstrator then a leader of a Religion and a spiritual leader to all.

TheKhanzumer 08-20-2003 03:32 PM

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Spoiler forum someone who could be a normal mod such as Khanz, or for help someone also really experienced for it.
Woohoo, my name was mentioned. Actually I wouldn't mind helping with the Fan Corner since you said you needed help. I have some ideas and shtuffs, but I'll not get ahead of myself.

I don't think that we need to get completely knew mods, but a couple changes here and there could be useful. I think if the mods are changed it should be a vote like last time, and that current mods should be given a choice whether or not they wish to continue with the new mods. Or something.

(I've got to stay hip so...) Max for GD! Overthrow Alcar!

The Red Muse 08-20-2003 03:51 PM

Wheeee....~
 
Wow! I can't believe this! Actually two people said that I could be a mod... Thanks! Ya made me happy^_____^ <---see?

Anyway, my own opinion is, that hobo or dripik would make good mods. They're both very active, especially dripik-- he's a great guy in general. He knows how to give advises without sounding rude or cheeky.

Codek 08-20-2003 06:52 PM

Why does everyone get so exited about being a moderator? Do they look forward to bossing people around and closing their topics for no apparant reason?

Sorry, I just don't think people are really realising the responsibilties of being a mod.

Trust me, the novelty wears off. After a while you start wishing you were back as an ordinary user. You'll start to miss being able to go off on holiday without HAVING to tell someone.

It feels like you are getting more power and freedom, but in fact it's just more work and another chore.

Xavier 08-20-2003 07:00 PM

I don't feel any pressure...
I'm enjoying my job...
and I absolutly don't want to be a simple user again, I think that I can help people better being a mod

Codek 08-20-2003 07:06 PM

Listen you halfwit layabout, NEVER tell me that you are "helping" people being a mod. That's the most shit I've ever heard anyone say.

You would be helping someone if you got off your damn ass and went out to your local volunteer homeless center to work there. You would be helping people if you went out to third world countries and helped deliver medical supplies.

I hardly consider this place "helping" anyone. It's just a place people go to talk about stuff when they're bored.

Some people really have got the wrong idea about what a forum is for.

Xavier 08-20-2003 07:49 PM

you are a perfect exemple of those kind of people...
you apparently don't understand you can talk to people without insulting them...

also you say moderators have " responsibilties", I would like to know what "responsibilties " you think we have? Just to know if you have any idea of what we are doing


oh yeah, please try to not put so much insults in your next post

Codek 08-20-2003 07:57 PM

I can't be bothered to respond. I'll get back to you tomorrow.

Majic 08-20-2003 10:18 PM

Its helping on another scale, IMO. Making browsing an online hangour a bit easier. Nothing huge, but helping none the less. Generally, I notice you tend to have some view frames set a bit smaller, like the "music is not art" thing or whatever.

Not that its bad you believe differently, but more good is going to be coming from Xavier than several others, hes a superb mod.

Codek 08-20-2003 10:23 PM

I know I just thought i'd stir things up a bit. :D:D:D:D:lol:

Haha, sorry, I'm mean I know. I wont do it again, promise! :D

Majic 08-21-2003 12:01 AM

Anyways, if we were going to do mod positions for a year, its probably already too late. The last ones were finished in early September. *shrug*

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