War or Peace?
 

Its a choice, Bush and Blair are for war, the UN's against, and Splat, the little, confused, English boy, who recently turned fourteen, and trapped in a country of protesters, should there really be a war on Iraq? If you decide to vote, please state who you are and why you say so in the space below.

i say giving a warnign shot is a good idea beacsue yes a WW3 would be TERRIBLE but why would we just stand around waiting to be attacked again? we need to take action for what happened 9/11/01, and i think Saddam needs to be silenced.

Bush says we will attack Saddam and his sons if they do not leave Iraq in 48 hours, I think that it will be sooner then 48 hours. Bush might have a little trick up his sleave.

I am all for the war.

War is unevitable... Unless Saddam surrenders... you do not **** with America and not get hit back. Iraq stands on top of the world most biggest oil supply. Surely America wants that place to be stable.

But i dont want war, thats my opinion,

in 48 hours
 

What gives america the right to make nuclear warheads, and not North Korea?

*mumbles something about the idiotic american government mentality*

Notice that I spelt america with a lower case "a" :p

And atusiya, oh my. It falls right on Jacob's birthday, how ironic. And, good to see you posting again!

Alcar...

No you didn't....

What if Bush was killed then there will be no war. See N Koria just started its nuclear war program so why doesn't bush attack them. All he wants is the oil so i hope if bush attacks iraq then Sadam should blow up the oil so bush loses everything. Hahahahhahahahah

GET OUT OF THERE!!!
 

OH jesus christ, lucky I'm away from it all! Feel free to bomb the s**t out of the Iraqie's...But expect to be hit back harder. No offence, but I think Bush is the next Hitler!Hope NZ doesn't get invovled...

why the hell has G. Bush not decide to simply send like...3 death squads into iraq and have the war over in 3 weeks?


give him a warning shot, then move in, i think what G. Bush is doing now is a good idea.

hehe...the wars starting on jacobs birthday...dont knowwhy that makes me laugh though...hmmmm...weird.

"we need to take action for what happened 9/11/01"

I can't believe you guys think this is because of what happened in your country on 9/11/01. This is a nothing-war, its about greed and flexing military muscle, and possibly about George Bush getting into the history books, in a big way. America, and probably Britain but i don't know exactly, want Saddam's oil reserves. This is no retaliation for 9/11, although our countries will probably use that as their excuse for killing a ton of innocent people.

By the way. Attacking without the UN's consent is illegal. You have all these little african countries sending their people to our countries (Britain, i dunno about America) and us telling them to stop it. They aren't gonna listen to what Britain has to say after we've broken the law, are they? That's going off on a tangent i know, but it's true, no?

I'm indifferent really, i'm niether for or against the war. I just wish Tony Blair would stop saying he's doing it in our name. Sure, go to war, just don't say you're doing it on my behalf.

Super Munch: Bush IS the next Hitler...in response to some harsh criticism in the tabloids, he said "There should be limits to freedom"

...Right. If George W. Bush was killed, Dick Cheney would become president.

Many people think Bush is a moron for going to war, but it isn't his decision alone in the first place (A large number gov't officials must agree with the idea of war, before any act can be taken). The fact that Saddam keeps playing games with the US after desert storm, gives America a good reason to end this foolishness by going to war. Also, war is upon us no matter if we want it or not. The only way this war will end, is if Saddam surrenders.

And what the hell is with this anti-America crap. America supplies plenty of nations with the protection and resources they need.

I hesitantly agree with the choices my government has made...

This isn't aimed at any of you American people on the board, but you know what i don't understand? I don't get how we (England) can be allied with America, when America funds the IRA, a terrorist group who are very much an enemy of England.

It's just full of hypocrisy.

I've just realised what i said...The IRA are a terrorist group...Isn't this supposed to be the "War On Terrorism" ?

What's the IRA? I find that hard to believe.

This is not debateable mate, it's just pure fact. The IRA are huge group based in Ireland lead by Sinn Fein (I'm pretty sure that's the right spelling, it's pronounced 'shin fain'), and America does indeed fund them.

In very recent years they have bombed English cities such as Manchester and London. All surprise attacks on innocent people...One incident i recall was a nail-bombing in a street full of shops...

I can't believe you guys think this is because of what happened in your country on 9/11/01. This is a nothing-war, its about greed and flexing military muscle, and possibly about George Bush getting into the history books, in a big way. America, and probably Britain but i don't know exactly, want Saddam's oil reserves. This is no retaliation for 9/11, although our countries will probably use that as their excuse for killing a ton of innocent people.
-GorgorothII

how does this not half to do with 9/11? if we werent attacked we wouldnt all the sudden decide to go to war. 9/11 was the biggest influence on this matter. i personally dont like Bush or war but how can anyone say its a bad idea to go to fight? its the best idea because why the hell would we sit here waiting to be attacked again? i think its bogus, i say we go on in there with 1 sweep and take iraq off the map. screw the innocent ppl over there, thats what they are saying about us. Better Them then Me

Heh, funny, I haven't replied to this. Well I'll just get straight to the point, because I really don't want to argue on this. Yes I support the war. Yes I believe we should bomb the crap out of them until they surrender or die (they being Saddam and his sons). 12 years is more then enough time for Iraq to have disarmed. We as Americans don't usually go running around and threatening are own people as well as the rest of the world with weapons of mass destruction. Thus we figure Saddam should be rid of his power so we don't get loons like him threatning people. Then we have the problem about North Korea. Another country that has the same attitude. I don't know how they will play out in this "war" but whatever they may do, is up to them. Simple fact, if we get threatened, we will fight back. I suppose it's the "law of the jungle" maybe not? I'll let you people decide.

I can't find any of the opinions in this poll suitable for me...
I think that it is kinda wrong to attack Iraq... Not that I would have any sympathy for Hussein and Bin Laden. I'm more worried about all those innocent people who will die.
Hussein should've left the country with his kids, when he still had the chance.

I recall hearing from the news that over 80 % of the people in the United States of America think that war is the only solution. Or was it 60%?

And what was the thing about Iraq having some chemical weapons used or something? I think I heard something about countries preparing for a possible smallpox vaccination-so, does this have anything to do with the war?

You don't mess around with the U.S. I am aganst war but if its in the name of peace well then the hell with the protesters!


Paramiteabe...:fuzblink:

Just to add on atusiya@'s post here is the Countdown to War

In the name of peace, my arse!

But the peace we currently have is peace based on mutual, international fear. So i guess going to war is better than having false-peace.

Going to war in the name of peace? No, how about we keep the weapons inspectors, and wait until they actually find any weapons of mass destruction. If they find any, the UN can order Saddam to take them apart under UN supervision. Peaceful solution. Okay, that means that Iraq won't have a democratic government set up, and the Iraquis, Kurds and other inhabitants will continue to be victimised by Saddam, but that's a hell of a lot better than killing hundreds of completely innocent civilians. George Bush is obviously the biggest threat to world peace there is, and the fact that he's only truely after Iraq because of their oil fields just proves that the US as a nation isn't taking the responcibility to find alternative means of fuel and energy. As you can tell, I am against the war, but it's not because I'm worried about a third world war, it's because I feel that it is morally unacceptable, especially when there is a perfectly good peaceful resolution sitting right in front of Blair and Bush.

A lot of people walked out of schools and collages across Britain today to demonstrate their protest to war. I considered this, as did plenty of people in my year at school, but in the end we decided that in times such as this, we cannot afford to compensate education for short-term expression. In the end, today's children will form tomorrow's governments, and only if they are educated and ethical will they avoid the mistakes our leaders are making today. I actually came on here thinking there'd be something on here about these walk-outs so I could disagree, but it seems I'm going to have to mention it myself.

All that protesting really doesn't matter, now does it? at 8:00 tonight... we're going to war, regardless of what anyone but Bush 'n' Pals think.

i dont like war just like anyuone else BUT i think war is the best idea because like i said before... whats the point of waiting around for another terrorist attack? we should go in iraq and take out Saddam. i also dont know why people are feeling sorry for the civilians in Iraq. u actually think they would feel bad for us? i say screw all of them because thats what they are saying right back. again. better them then me.

War on my birthday, wow, who'd have guessed...

Has Bush actually stated that hes after the oil fields? Because if not, I'm just going to disbelieve that statement. After all, not all of our oil comes from Iraq. Sheesh.

And Saddam has had 12 years to disarm. And he has started a war before. I'm sure if all of you were tortured by your leaders, you'd like somebody to rescue you too.

Well I live in Australia and all i can say is that John Howard (our Prime Minister) is a total bastard! Australia has nothing to do with this war and because of him Australian lives will be lost for no reason:fuzmad:

The Wolfpac's Countdown To War is over..And
 

20/03/2003 on Jaob's birthday(Japan time...)
White House: War has started:(

I so agree. Like I've said before:

When Australia went to war in Vietnam, we lost and I'm glad we did we had no rights to be in there

And, John Howard is such a pack follower

Alcar...

You know I am so tired of you people who hate us. And for what? Why do you hate America? I mean when you people from other countries are being threaten killed and tortured by your governments. Who do you see come in and save you from that? The U.S. Who do you see save starving countries? The U.S. And you say we are are threat of the world.

But when you see air planes fly into our skyscrappers do you even come over and help us out? NO. You sit there and laugh at us. Well all I have to say is what comes around goes around. God Bless America and for all it stands for. freedom! And God bless our young American Solders who are fighting for peace.

I'm glad someone sees it from my point of view, much appreciation Alcar.

Paramiteabe, not once did Alcar nor I mention that we hated America. We just expressed our views on what we thought of the Australian situation.

But with you saying that stuff about

"I mean when you people from other countries are being threaten killed and tortured by your governments. Who do you see come in and save you from that?...

does that mean America was going in to save the Iraq community from their oppression if they had no "super powers?"

Let's say saddam hussein didn't have any weapons of mass destruction or chemical warfare whatsoever. Let's say Iraq was not the leading Oil producer of the world, but saddam was still an oppressor. Would America come in and save the oppressed?

We didn't say you were "the threat of the world. After Iraq will the same thing happen with North Korea and their ability to produce Nuclear Weapons? Who next, Russia? Not another Cold War. Does there always have to be a motive? Bush has got some thinking to do.

I never said I hated the US.

I just hate the US Government, which is only a small amount of people that don't know how to run a country properly.

But I am not for Iraq either, Suddam ain't the greatest. He's even worst. What I'm trying to empathise is that the US is a bully, and shouldn't be the decider of who can and can't have nuclear weapons.

I have many friends in the US, and I don't hate them. I hate the Government. Another thing I've always said is:

All the good American presidents were assasinated, except Bill Clinton

Alcar...

I hope saddam gets what's coming to him, he deserves it, and more.

He actually had butchered quite a few members of his own family, including all his son-in-laws and an uncle, for minor reasons such as trying to leave the country. He's a murderer and an attrocity to humankind.

The unspeakable act of actually placing his troops/equipment among civilians and highly populated areas shows the fact that he cares little for the lives of his fellow citizens, and has allowed his (empty) pride to blind his reason. He is fighting a war he cannot possibly win, but along with wars come casualties.

The 97% US troop survival rate is still haunting.
People are hoping this war would end swiftly, but I can assure you it will take longer than that.

:eek: FACT: The amount of bombs dropped on the first day of this war has exceeded the amount dropped throughout the entire duration of the Gulf War.

Well I know you dident I am just expressing my feelings towards the people who do, like the French and the Germans. We are in Iraq to liberate them from Saddam. We are trying to help the Iraqis. The Target is the Government not Iraq. Infact the first wave of attacks were towards Iraqi leaders and their stronghold in Begdad. All I am saying is how long does it have to be until something does happen and hundreds of thousands of lives are killed?

Your right our Government is screwed up but so are all the other Governments in the world.

Hey, it's all understood:fuzsmile:

Your right there are no perfect governments in the world because if there were, situations as severe as this would never happen. With wars come casualties, and almost everyone no matter which side they are on will have to pay some costs.

I hate my government, and I have to bloody vote at the next election. I think I'd rather pay the fine ($20). At least your government is independent, not relying on the British Commonwealth like we are.

At least now decades of deceit and cruelty by saddam will now reach an end.

We ought to think about it before invadeing other countries. But if the point of invadeing Iraq is to get rid Saddam then I am sure Bush has the right idea just that he dident take the time to really think about the actions. History has a tendancy to repeat itself and this is nothing new. I was sitting in class today and the question was said that do you think Bush is handleing this situation well? And I was thinking about this topic and surpriseingly a lot of hands rose in my class. He has the right idea but its just too soon.
We live in an age when the last 12 years of deplomacy has failed. Unfortunatly it results into war. All I have to say is what a mess.

Bush is Mad! he doesn't realise that "freeing" Iraq will make their oil more available, meaning that the U.S.A's oil will have to drop in price, leading to more money for Iraq and less for the U.S.A.
Also a question, if the UK doesn't find any "big bombs" can the army be tried for war crimes?.......... I just wanna say that i am pro-war. ( and a communist......... i didn't say that did I?)

Majic Abe, it's a bit naive to think that Bush WOULD state that he wants Saddam's oil reserves.

Not all of America's (or Britain's, in fact) oil comes from Iraq, that's true enough. But Iraq is one of, if not THE most oil-rich place on the planet at the moment, and it couldn't hurt America if they owned it, heh.

The war has indeed begun though, and right now, i'm just happy that America and Britain have bombing carefully selected targets, and are not massacaring innocent Iraqi civilians...

Your absolutely right. We get our oil from Alaska at least most of it.