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molluck2 07-05-2002 01:10 PM

do you believe that there are still some meeches left?
 
our spew is your brew

Xavier 07-05-2002 01:15 PM

I think there are. But I dunno where
I can tell you some are still frozen in vykker instalations for future experiments

molluck2 07-05-2002 01:20 PM

really??why haven't those idiots told me that?
i'm their boss for crying out loud!!
argh,i'm so mad!

Xavier 07-05-2002 01:23 PM

sorry but glukkons are not the vykkers bosses.
Glukkons and vykkers sometimes work togethere but have differents industies

the glukkons have the Magog Cartel
and the vykkers have the Vykker Coglomeration.

not the same thing

molluck2 07-05-2002 01:28 PM

yeah,but i've made a deal with those guys!

Mac the Janitor 07-05-2002 03:05 PM

Hmph.

Back to the topic,

I think there are Meeches somewhere on Oddworld. If there wasn't any left, there would be no need to introduce them in AO.

Wil 07-05-2002 05:21 PM

For all those that do not have the time to sift through Oddworld Forum's past topics (understandable, given the ammount of rubbish which is creeping into General Discussion), you will find it of interest that we will be seeing Meeches some time in the future, see their way of life and hear their story. Whether it's a flashpack or a prequel-type thing is unknown, and this might not even take place in the Oddworld Quintology. Bear in mind that an early idea for Hand of Odd was that it took place in Oddworld's past.

We really should create an FAQ about all this stuff.

Oddsville 07-05-2002 05:25 PM

Thats a good idea Max we should do that. You me and some of the others could answer them. I also agree that there have been alot of usless topics latley (none of Kaimanas:fuzsmile: ). *sigh what are the fourms coming to*.

Kaimana 07-05-2002 05:31 PM

Thanks Oddsville. Maybe i should try to send these to the other pages by making some good topics that can be very disputible.:fuzsmile:

Mac the Janitor 07-05-2002 05:32 PM

Yes, like an Oddworld FAQ. That's a good idea.

I agree with you, Oddsville. Kaimana is one of the very few decent newbies who is supportive and actively participates in the forums. Most of the others don't do much, and are only here for about a week.

Kaimana 07-05-2002 05:34 PM

Thank you Mac. should i make a good topic that can be very disputeble.:fuzconf:

General Drippik 07-05-2002 08:13 PM

Yes! Hail to Kaimana! I picked yes.

Kaimana 07-05-2002 08:57 PM

Ok now thats enough. but thankyou guys for being so kind.:fuzsmile:

Alcar 07-05-2002 09:23 PM

Hmmm, Max when will you have your Oddworld Encyclopedia up and ready? That is like an Oddworld FAQ.

Other than that, if you do go ahead with an Oddworld FAQ idea, i'd be happy to help, in anyway I can.

Alcar...

souled out 07-06-2002 02:49 AM

honestly i think it would be more fun if they really never did show any more meeches. i know everyone loves the idea of seeing more of an endangerd species remerge but i think it will not aid in the believability (no matter how "big" oddworld is). its almost like what they are trying to do with munch and the last 150 gabbits. so what if we dont see one more one legged species, we really already knew that this one was gone. it should stay that way. meech munchies were so good that they killed off a species, the end. i dont think cloning them is a good "excuse" to bring them back either. just let them be dead. (and if you really really STILL want to see one maybe they could program in a stuffed one in an exhibit or something at an interior museium looking level.) i really dont think they should bring them back even for a game. its so much better if they just kept making references to something we never ever get to see. (though flashbacks could be ok MAYBE)
for the sake of not repeating too many ideas and keeping the story kinda sad they should leave them as lost to the ages. its more epic that in the long run there will be imeasurable losses toward acheiveing their destinies.

just my preference leave em dead! :fuzsad: (sorry meeches)

Alcar 07-06-2002 02:56 AM

Woah, woah,

I just remembered, there are rumourmed to be meeches hidden away in a reserve, so that they can be breed back into the wild.

Alcar...

sligster 07-06-2002 03:07 AM

I think I saw a pic of a vykker standing in a door-way and above the door-way, there were a bunch of frozen creatures and one of them was a meech, so ther could still be meechs left frozen in some other vykkers labs somewhere.

Xavier 07-06-2002 03:54 AM

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Originally posted by sligster
I think I saw a pic of a vykker standing in a door-way and above the door-way, there were a bunch of frozen creatures and one of them was a meech, so ther could still be meechs left frozen in some other vykkers labs somewhere.
that's what I'm talking about
*spend 10min to find the pic back*

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previe.../munches58.jpg

thebomb372 07-06-2002 03:57 AM

which one is the meech

Xavier 07-06-2002 04:08 AM

well... you can see one here but I read somewhere vykkers had a frozen one.
strange it isn't in there

ODDBODD 07-06-2002 05:48 AM

i wonder how high a meech is, it would be cool if a meech is gigantic

Majic 07-06-2002 05:55 AM

I noticed a Gabbit I believe in that picture Xavier... Doesn't that mean that they aren't extinct? Interesting, they could have cloned that Gabbit and taken the lungs for one and sell them to Margret. Also, if they had one Meech, that wouldn't make sense. I'd think Meeches would produce sexualy, and there wouldn't be one of each sex, meaning no baby Meeches and when you take into account genetics, the Meeches would grow up to have larger weaknesses and be more vulnerable to shit. I think. So wouldn't the VYkkers have two? I honestly don't think its a frozen Meech queen (hence they are extinct)(supposidly).

ODDBODD 07-06-2002 06:28 AM

there are 3 gabbits in that picture (2 are the exact same)

Sydney 07-06-2002 07:13 AM

A while back there was a rumor about a pack of Meeches being discovered on a lost plateau, but the Glukkons scooped ‘em up and dumped ‘em into one of their hunting preserves. There may be more, but no one can say for sure.

Wil 07-06-2002 07:22 AM

Hello Sydney, welcome to General Discussion. You'll find a few interesting topics here, burried under all the rubble.

No, really, you've got to give it a goosey, it's really poor here.

Sydney 07-06-2002 07:38 AM

:

Originally posted by Max the Mug
Hello Sydney, welcome to General Discussion.
I come here all the time. It's just that lately, I haven't seen many topics interesting enough to reply to.

sligster 07-06-2002 04:08 PM

What? I thought I saw a meech somewhere in there!


P.S. whats that sea horse-looking thing next to the vykker?

P.S.S. There are 4 gabbits.

Edit: I think thats the meech in the second to the top row.

Danny 07-06-2002 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Majic_Abe
I noticed a Gabbit I believe in that picture Xavier... Doesn't that mean that they aren't extinct?
Call me stupid, but how do we know that the creatures in these bottles are alive? They look more like corpses preserved in formaldehyde to me...

Mac the Janitor 07-06-2002 04:22 PM

Yeah, I agree. Some of the Gabbits have their heads twisted in unconfortable positions.

Majic 07-06-2002 04:49 PM

As far as I see it thats from the curve of the container. Still though, wouldn't the Vykkers still be able to clone them if they were dead? Hm...

souled out 07-06-2002 05:29 PM

yea im with you on the formaldahyde idea.

Oddsville 07-06-2002 05:39 PM

Thats because they are in formaldahyde (or at least the Oddworld equivalent to it). The Vykkers constantly love to flaunt their captures and the animals that they have experimented on without being torn to shreads. Infact thouse containers where just a few of many in the corridor. The Vykkers use alot of these corpses to study the anatomy of a creature before the disect it or mutate its chemistry.

Kaimana 07-06-2002 05:52 PM

Yes Oddsville that is most likely the case. One thing that i see happening is progress. correct me if im wrong but from what i can see Glukkons dont care at all what they do to a species race. they would drive them to extinction and not care at all. But i see the Vykkers doing the opposite. the specimens in the chambers look as they are not only going to be used as expirements but maybe also to clone. To replenish a species. not for the sake of it, but more so for there profit.:fuzconf:

Oddsville 07-06-2002 05:55 PM

Yeah, I agree with you on the profit part. Vykkers only really seem to 'care' about animals is because of how much they could possibly be worth.

souled out 07-06-2002 05:56 PM

in the movie the vikers thought the lack of gabbits was funny just as much as the glukkons did. (there were vikers in the auction too) i dont think they care about the creatures enough to try and bring them back, i think they would just find somethine else to "improve".

Xavier 07-06-2002 05:57 PM

sorry... but no formaldahyde.
can't you read?
what is just above the door? FREEZER
sorry to ruins your theories

Oddsville 07-06-2002 06:01 PM

I don't think they thought it was funny forsay, heres a quote from Irwin "Thats the last damn Gabbit there is! Its lungs are worth a fourtion!" that shows that Irwin wanted to keep him for money. In the early plot to Munch's Oddysee, Humphery and Irwin where going to keep Munch for several days trying to find a cure for Maggie. I don't know what was wrong with her that they would need to find a cure but anyways, Irwin and Huphrey kept saying that they had almost found the cure for Maggie when they really weren't even trying, just watching the Moola role in from there pay to find the cure in the first place.

Edit- Very good Xavier, I alway considered it formaldihyde. Oh, well.:fuzwink:

Kaimana 07-06-2002 06:10 PM

Yes oddsville is right. so you see the vykkers do care about profit enough that they would clone creatures for there own needs.

BTW Xavier man, i didnt see that, im must still be asleep from the drag racing last night. very good.

souled out 07-06-2002 06:13 PM

well the reason cryogenics doesnt work is that ice crystals are jagged little buggers and when a body beging to freeze it lowers to sed freezing temperature and then ice crystals form. when an ice crystal forms it takes a crystaline shape (which we understand has jagged shards) as the ice and moisture collect into pockets the crystals grow and the flesh is pushed aside. soon the flesh is torn asunder. that is why frostbite can make you have to amputate, because the flesh is dead and it could start to rot. youve heard of freezer burn right?

if you really really still want to go with the cryogenic freezing idea we can go down this road.

currently there is one type of fish (in iceland??) that is the size of a quarter in length. it produces an oil naturally that prevents ice crystals from forming. it is coated in this secretin and can sucessfully be frozen and unfrozen as many times as you want and as long as you want (within the lifespan of a fish). this is an "induced hybernation" as opposed to cryogenic freezing. this would mean that they could preserve the animals fora little while in ice but what would the point be. we dont use the oil for much because of how little you could get. one quart would take a couple thousand fish and who would harvest them all. currently there are not other types of fish that can be "adapted" to secrete this oil. ice would be a be a way to preserve the dead flesh but live animals is a much more painstaking task. and water is cheaper than formaldahyde i believe.

just my thoughts

Xavier 07-06-2002 06:15 PM

ho guys how can you miss that?
I can't believe it

so all the creatures may maybe be still alive, intresting