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Xavier 10-01-2001 06:05 PM

ANTI-SoBe PETITION!
 
I say it's a stupid idee

information here:
http://www.oddworldian.net/oddworldf...c&f=1&t=000792

http://www.oddworldian.net/oddworldf...=000793#000002

http://www.babeloueb.com/oddworld/fo...d=1&postid=161


How much people disagree, how much chances they put it away, PLEASE VOTE ! ! !

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: Xavier ]

enversi 10-01-2001 06:30 PM

Take out the Sobe ads!

Munch on This 10-01-2001 06:34 PM

Take the SoBe ads out of Munch's Oddysee! This will dumb down the universe of oddworld. I don't want to pay for an advertisement! :mad:

Elum 10-01-2001 06:49 PM

ehem. Let me see how I can put this nicely :

CALM DOWN! BIG DEAL, THERE IS A SOBE MACHINE IN MUNCHES ODDYSEE! ODDWORLD INHABITANTS HAVE BEEN WORKING THEIR ASSES OFF TO PLEASE US, I AM ALL FOR THEM GETTING A LITTLE MORE MONEY. CHILL OUT.

sorry, we all have different opinions.

Oddsville 10-01-2001 06:50 PM

I am alittle mad the Sobey will be in the game but mabye Oddworld Inhabitants needs the money? Hey we could have a fund raiser for Oddworld (J/K)...

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: Oddsville ]

FuzzyFuzzle 10-01-2001 07:11 PM

I agree with Elum and Oddsville. First off, I remember reading somewhere that it was just the SoBe build of the game, so maybe we're getting all worked up over nothing. Second off, if SoBe is in the game, oh well. Sure we'd prefer that'd not be, but its not like it will totally dominate the Munch expirience and the game will feel like a playable billboard. And lastly, if they put SoBe in the game, SoBe must be paying them a whooole lotta cash. Where will this cash go? To buy better equipment, programmars, ect. So before we get all hyped up over this (in three different topics I might add), we should wait 'till we hear an Oddworld Inhabitant say "Yes, SoBe is in the game." or we find SoBe in the game (the latter seems more likely.)

Munch on This 10-01-2001 07:59 PM

I hope it's just a SoBe build of the game. As how would they explain the existance of the product in Oddworld? If it isn't, I'll still buy it. The Oddworld series of games have been the best games I have ever played. They are humorous, the creatures are awesome, and they have the best story-line out of any game or game series for that matter. I was just shocked to hear that their might be product placement in an Oddworld game. This series is on a different planet. If they are going to do an ad for Sobe, they should do it on the box or in the manual, or something similar to that, anything but in-game. I e-mailed Alf about it stating my opinion. I hope that all people who don't like this will e-mail to alf too.

[ October 01, 2001: Message edited by: Munch on This ]

Joe the Intern 10-01-2001 08:05 PM

hey, maybe if SoBe didnt promote them, wed never get munchs exoddus. profits from the games alone might not do it anymore. the have to spend lots more money to bring us 3d games.

Elum 10-01-2001 08:53 PM

Alf said SOBE will be in the game. Read this months dear alf.

FuzzyFuzzle 10-01-2001 09:55 PM

Well, Alf implied that SoBe is in the game. He didn't say it straight out though (he rarely does). He might have just been talking about the SoBe contest, or some other SoBe-OI deal

Cloverfield 10-02-2001 12:27 AM

I have to say that I am with Elum on this one. I respect any decision that OWI makes, I always have done. When everyone was jumping up and down about the Xbox move, I supported it.

To me, it's not so bad anyway if SoBe is in the final game... as you can't buy SoBe over here anyway, so as far as I'm concerned it could be an Oddworld drink.

Secondly, SoBe has put in a lot of support for Oddworld with it's competitions and Love Bus tour promoting Oddworld. The Love Bus tour especially may have shown many people Oddworld who may not have heard of the game before or considered it before.

I'm sure when we're playing the game anyway we'll be too engrossed in the game play to worry about what's on a Vending Machine.

Abe Babe...

ODDBODD 10-02-2001 01:22 AM

NO ABE BABE YOU CAN'T JUST AGRREE WITH OWI ON THIS ONE, YES WE SHOULD RESPECT OW'S DESCISION BUT THIS TIME THEY HAVE GONE TOO FAR.

WHEN I BOUGHT ODDWORLD I THOUGHT I COULD PLAY A GAME THAT WAS BASED ON STORY AND ODDWORLD, BUT AFTER TODAY ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY. THATS ALL IT IS MONEY, I THOUGHT ODDWORLD IS DIFFERENT. BUT THEY AREN'T

I USED TO BE INSPIRED HOW LORNE LANNING USED TO TALK ABOUT THE GAME AND THE STORY RATHER THAN THE MONEY AND THE STOCK. guess not!

AND SOBE, THOSE DAMN MUTHER ****ERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SHITTY BUS TO GO AROUND AND GIVE ODDWORLD FLYERS TO PEOPLE THEY GET PUT IN THE DAMN GAME!
WHAT ABOUT SYDNEY AND ABEBABE? THEY GAVE MORE FANS TO ODDWORLD THAN ANY OTHER SOURCE BUT NOOOOOO THEY PUT SOME SHAMEFULL PISS DRINK ON THE MARKET!

FOR PROTEST AGAINST ODDWORLD I AM SHUTTING DOWN MY SITE! plus the occasional email!

IF ANY ODDWORLD STAFF READS THIS, YOU SUCK! IM LEAVING

Sydney 10-02-2001 02:34 AM

I can't say that SoBe's presence in the game excites me, but as FuzzyFuzzle said, Alf didn't explicitly say that SoBe will be in Munch's Oddysee. For all we know, Alf could have been talking about the Love Bus Tour demo.

This whole situation reminds me of a game whose name I can't recall I had for the Sega Megadrive. It featured two characters called Mac and Mike who, upon completion of each level, were greeted by Ronald McDonald and were showered with colorful M's that you must frantically try to collect. It was actually an enjoyable game, despite being linked to McDonalds.

Cool Paramite 10-02-2001 03:39 AM

I don't think it's so anoying. I think it's even funny. For example, in Tonic Trouble are vending machines from which you can get Nestle crunch. That product really exists!

Well, I think it's just funny.

Crazy Vykker 10-02-2001 07:56 AM

I think would be good if Alf explain us what happen with SoBe in the final game.

If finally is in the game... we will be resigned... Personally this don´t worry but OWI will make a thing some incongruous.

Teal 10-02-2001 09:21 AM

Can I just ask what difference to gameplay it will make whether vending machines say "Sobe" or "Boing" or whatever? Does it REALLY MATTER? Will your life END if you see a logo? Who cares? It's a GAME, anyway! It's NOT REAL! It's fun to play around and pretend it's real, but who REALLY CARES?!

*rolls eyes* You people objecting to advertisine - do you all walk round with your eyes shut? Yes it's a pain in the ass, but it's here to stay - it eventually in a roundabout way pays for the things that would otherwise be too expensive to be made.

So please, stop whining?

Crazy Vykker 10-02-2001 12:39 PM

You are right, but... imagine Dark Vader with a spot in him helmet that say " Drink Coca Cola ". I couln´t imagine this AAARRGGGGG!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Crazy Vykker 10-02-2001 12:46 PM

It suposse is another world, a odd world, in a strange and distant world can´t exist earth trademarks

In added who is the next...Mc Donald´s....Nike..... in the four chapter of the quintology we can change the name for " FranchiseWorld" ;)

Xavier 10-02-2001 02:46 PM

Okey, okey, But now I HATE SoBe :mad:
So they missed they advertising... So **** SoBe

freakyLA 10-02-2001 04:58 PM

:

Originally posted by Crazy Vykker:
You are right, but... imagine Dark Vader with a spot in him helmet that say " Drink Coca Cola ". I couln´t imagine this AAARRGGGGG!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
That would be funny!

freakyLA 10-02-2001 05:07 PM

DAMM! WHERE HAS MY LAST POST GONE!! oh no I dont wanna write everything again! :mad:

Xavier 10-02-2001 05:18 PM

You have Made your two post, do you can't see them ? :eek:

[ October 02, 2001: Message edited by: Xavier ]

Joe the Intern 10-02-2001 07:23 PM

its not about the fact that we have to look at another advertisement. its about the fact that oddworld used to stand for something. they used to stand for the little guy. that what the game represented. but i can put up with it. as long as they keep pumping out high quality games im in. but in the new "dear alf" he said that SoBe has many of the same beliefs oddworld does. saving the environment, animal rights, etc...

Statikk HDM 10-02-2001 08:54 PM

Anti-SoBe? You guys friggin nuts?! If you had some at a football game you'd dig. It's tasty, more so than gatorade and Oh so Refreshing! Even OI loves it and the moolah it'll make. munch chuggin Sobe? Hell yeah! A glukkon guzzlin' it? Damn strait! Oddworld with SoBe, So Be it.

enversi 10-02-2001 11:08 PM

Some of you are missing the point. It's not about how big the ad is, or even what the ad is about, it's the fact that the put an ad IN the game. I don't care if it's an ad for greenpeace, it doesn't belong in the gameworld. Even if you like what they are advertising, it still destroys your immersion in Oddworld.

Given the choice, I'm sure all of us on this board would rather have the game without the SoBe ad in it. So why are we disagreeing? Tell Oddworld that you don't want it! Email them, tell them you'd rather they take the ad out!

You don't have to go along with it just because you like Oddworld. They aren't Gods, they make mistakes. This is one of them. Don't let your admiration of Oddworld make you complacent. Just email them and ask them to remove the ad! Simple.

FuzzyFuzzle 10-02-2001 11:52 PM

A) while I agree with you that SoBe in the game is not cool, we arn't totally sure it is in the game.
B) It's not just the fact that I admire OI that I'm not sending them e-mail, it's just that I trust them to make the best decision for MO and the company in general. They've been in this buisness alot longer than I have (anythings larger than 0), so I feel confidant enought that they'll make the right choice without pestering them with e-mail messages.

Statikk HDM 10-03-2001 08:18 PM

What? Destrroys immersion! This just goes to show that OI is a corporation not Jesus. I find that for a company to so proclaim its love for the little guy, then make a game about little guy, and after all that decide that at the end of the day they'd rather be a filthy rich big guy is hilarious! If OI wants to "sell out" I don't care. As long as they produce good games Abe can change his damn tattoos to Nike logos.

LuxoJr 10-03-2001 10:22 PM

Does anybody still remember that scrolling LED in Abe's Exoddus? The one where it said:

:

Where do you want us to send you today?
or something like that. I read somewhere that Sobe is a health powerup, but as long as we never see it in the cutscenes I guess the produce placement could even be funny. Whacking a promo in the CG would undermine the plot that separates unrealistic gameplay elements from realistic storytelling. I guess.

Joe the Intern 10-03-2001 11:35 PM

wouldnt it be funny if alf came in right now and read all the negative stuff and got really pissed off and didnt come back? ah. on second thought, thatd suck.

Yemmling 10-04-2001 02:12 AM

man, some of you guys need to really chill out about this. If oddworld needs funds and support from a company, let'em take it. it only means better quality games for us. plus, sobe kicks ass in several ways. you best not be denyin' else i send my mad fuzzle army out! kwaaaa!!!

Cool Paramite 10-04-2001 04:00 AM

I just think SoBe in the game is funny. And we have all other toughts about it, we must respect that.

enversi 10-04-2001 08:13 AM

If Oddworld Inhabitants needs funds there are plenty of other ways to make money without altering their game's design. An artist shouldn't change their masterpiece because someone will pay them to. That only shows what little respect they had for their art in the first place. If OWI sees their games as commodities and nothing else, then they aren't deserving of success or our support.

I don't see how any of you can call this no big deal. It is a big deal. Oddworld is CHANGING their game to make a sponsor happy. This demonstrates a lack of respect for their creation and a lack of artistic integrity. Neither is a quality that makes me want to respect them right now.

Cool Paramite 10-04-2001 09:08 AM

If I am playing and see a SoBe poster or something in the game, I am not angry or something. I would be angry if there wre more earth products on Oddworld.

Chris Co Depot 10-04-2001 09:36 AM

http://www.sobebev.com/site/images/h_top_logo.gif

thats harsh!

Lets see what sobe can do for odd, I don't think that OWI is gonna put sobe in the game just for money mabey sobe will repay them! mabey they will come out with a new drink like soul storm brew? (that would be cool)

BTW I have loved sobe for years and I've loved oddworld for years too so for me its like a dream come true!

[ October 04, 2001: Message edited by: Chris Co Depot ]

enversi 10-04-2001 12:30 PM

Hey, I've had SoBe too. It's a good drink, I liked it. But that doesn't mean they should put it in the game. If they want to advertise for SoBe fine, just don't do it IN the game!

Oddipus 10-04-2001 02:13 PM

Guys, you make me tired!

Enversi, don't be so extreme negative!
All the rest, don't be too positive!

to negative: fooling yourself, Oddworld is still great
to positive: OWI will not think over this 'mistake' and will do the same some more in the future

Gluk Schmuck 10-04-2001 06:40 PM

we don't even know if it's in MO...tut...

enversi, do OddBuds, NOW!

just try emailing anythig-you-can-as-long-as-it-isnt-alf@oddworld.com...

eg...
info@oddworld.com
anyone-but-alf@oddworld.com
star-fruit@oddworld.com
give-me-my-right-arm-back@oddworld.com

one person can send the email to several addressses...then report back here...

MrBoj 10-04-2001 06:59 PM

HEY, I'M TAKING A PAGE PUT OF ODDBODD'S BOOK HERE USING CAPS LOCK, BUT CALM DOWN PEOPLE. READ THIS FROM DEAR ALF:

Q: I am particularly excited about the new Oddworld game, but I have one worry. I know that Oddworld is now advertising for a soft drink company, therewon't be any references to this in the game will there? No blatantadvertisement? I have seen game like this, some times they pull it off, some times it comesoff as blatant advertisement. Which one will you be?

Alf: You are likely referring to the product tie-in that Oddworld has with SOBE BEVERAGES™, makers of fine, refreshing drinks. Rest assured that Oddworld would never subject itself to unneeded advertising, even for a splendid company which makes such quality products as SOBE BEVERAGES™. Don't worry about it...instead, go and have yourself a drink to ease your stress...why not a delicious Elixir or Lizard Lightning made by SOBE BEVERAGES™?

SO, TO RAP UP, DO NOT WORRY, I DONT THINK THAT THERE WILL BE A VENDING MACHINE IN THE GAME WHERE YOU CAN GET SOBE DRINKS, ITS JUST A PARTNERSHIP TO GET PEOPLE AWARE OF BOTH SOBE AND ODDWORLD. AND JUST TO SAY THIS, I WOULD NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF SOBE REFERENCES IN THE GAME ITSELF SIMPLY BECAUSE ODDWORLD IS NOT EARTH, AND SHOULD NOT HAVE EARTH ADVERTISMENTS IN IT. I LOVE THE ODDWORLD PRODUCT ADVERTISMENTS, "OUR SPEW IS YOUR BREW!" ETC. ETC. ETC.

SO DONT WORRY! (end of caps lock)

Pilot 10-04-2001 08:07 PM

Most of you guys are getting out of line. Anybody who would actually logically think this through would see why this is so. Have you ever thought that they might be trying to convey a message?? Hmm.. Just like EVERY single other aspect of the game?

Joe the Intern 10-04-2001 08:24 PM

hehe blatant advertising. that was funny. anyway guys dont worry 'bout it. everything will be fine. oddworld wouldnt stoop that low would they? hey steels played the game. lets ask him. HHEEYYY SSSTTEEEELLLL!! we needyour help. get your ass over here! :)