Abe Lincoln
Hmmmm, Abe Lincoln helped free the slaves, while Abe the mudoken frees mudoken slaves... It makes you think.
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Hey yeah. Maybe there is a bit of inspiration for Abe's character right there.
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lol
lol i never noticed that beofre good point
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sorry
It's from Abraham, the one that God called. the fater of the religions nothing with lincon |
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Re: Abe Lincoln
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you never read the ancient testament?
the first Profet of God |
yes i have but im just stating that it doesn't make me think. Oddworld has based most of their names on modern things.
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hmmm yes but Abe is not a "modern" character he's more a spiritual character
maybe a little conection |
the thing is, i find no connection with munch and the modern times?? same with gabbits.
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I understand Xavier. I just couldn't understand what you meant by that. And yes Abe is very spiritual. Hmmm, it makes me think.
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Hahaha
you guys are all such fools... Ahh well.. it's a stage in the development of each human being.. |
I think it really has a connection with Abraham Lincoln.
*Scared* His alter ego! |
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maybe later Abe will get a big black hat! :lol:
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nooo make him a rasta man
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hehe hat like that are allready on oddworld (chroniclers, valet slig)
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another hat that would look cool is a cap... abe will look cool with and spray can in one hand, a smoking drill hanging out of his jeans with shells all over the floor and flipping the bird!
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Oops
The Abe character is based strongly around Abraham Lincoln, the U.S. President who was strongly anti-slavery. Sorry.
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Abe is an abbrivation for Abraham..
Abraham from the BIBLE! Altho I am not religeous, I do know a fare share and can tell you that Abe was not created to resemble Abe LIncoln.. Altho Lincoln had the same intentions as Abraham, any resemblence is a coincidence.. In the bible, Abraham frees the slaves from Egypt I believe.... Abe's clothes (that little piece of clothe) are also linked to religeous meaning, as the loin clothe was featured in the bible, even worn by Jesus himself. There are many other resemblences from Oddworld to religeon.. They call it symbolism... |
Good point sodd.
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I still don't know how to quote, but Xavier, you said that Abe is not modern, he's spiritual. Since when is being spiritual not being modern?
And, yes, Moses was the one who freed the slaves, not Abraham. Abraham's the guy who was gonna kill his son because god told him to, but then god sent a goat or something to stop him... I don't know, God in the old testement changes his mind a lot. Whoa, never mind, forget I said that. Don't want to incite a riot. |
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modern... pfft check out the threads.. hardly modern
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is that modern ?
I don't think so |
Wow, Xavier, I look all over the net for Oddworld pics... but I have never seen any of the images you have shown anywhere. You have to show me some more images, where did you get all of them?
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profesional secret... sorry
You will see others when Oddworld Maniac will be online |
he's from the future thats why!
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are you complexed to be only in the present ? lol |
Oh, time traveling gurus, secret pictures, who cares about boring things like that? We need to get back on track with our horribly underinformed rambling debate on character symbolism. Ugh.
I agree, it's probably Abe Lincoln. For one thing, he is known often as "Abe", while Abraham from the bible is not. He is called "Abraham", not Abe, traditionally. If Abe the Mudokon was short for something, sure, but it probably isn't, considering that other mudokons have short names too (like Alf, and Sam). So, yeah, since Abraham Lincoln is known for freeing the slaves, is called Abe, and is much more modern, and also considering that Lorne and many other members of OWI are Buddhists, I would think that Abe the Mudokon is named after him, not Abraham from the bible, who has nothing to do with slaves or loinclothes (WHat the heck were you talking about there?) and is not that great a rolemodel for a hero really. Hate to burst your bubble. |
ok It come probably from lincoln
your right |
Ha!
Breaking news:
Lorne Lanning announces titular Abe character based on Abraham Simpson!! :lol: I couldn't resist it. Sorry. I think people search too much for biblical connections in Oddworld. 'Exoddus' is another popular bore - it must have come from the Bible, surely! Well, actually, it's a word in the English language, and don't call me Shirley. I'd like some connections with Celtic Legends. |
HEHEHE
Okay I will try to stop relating evrything with the bible |
:fuzvamp: I CANT ARGUE THAT ABE IS NOT LIKE ABERHAME LINCOLN BUT YEAH THERE ARE MANY THINGS IN COMMON BEWTWEEN ABE AND LICOLN HeHe.:fuzblink:
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Abe Lincoln didn't free his own people....he freed slaves, Africans. Abe is like a Revolutionary leader of some sort, a Che Guerva type. Abe saves his own people....and others but particurally his own. Liberation man, Uprising, not upper class freeing the little guy.
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So... his name should be Moses. But it isn't, it's Abe, and if they named him after anybody, I would think it would be Abraham Lincoln. It doesn't have to be a perfect match, just a little similar to warrant being an omage of any sort.
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About Abe's name....maybe the developers wanted to give players an image of an average, nice guy. Abe doesn't have to mean Abe Lincoln, jumping to conclusions like that just confuses the reality. I think Abe is just the perfect name for this shmuck of a hero, nothing more, nothing less.
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I agree that Abraham Lincon is probly the origin of Abes name.
However the Mudukons have links to many religons... Maybe by coincidence... Maybe because OWI drawwed from a wide selection of religons... And maybe its because it was focused on one religon but so many popular religons follow the same formula. It seems to me that Budisum is a big influence... Harmany with nature, Karma, Zen energy (Spoce) , Chanting, Meditation, Rencarnation (when you die in the game), and even the clasic Mudukon fether (hair) stile. Although the Christains and Jews also could be a influence... Both where at stages in their history denied of fredom. Also they have a beleaf in the after life (the werdos, etc.) and souls being seperate from bodys (possestion, etc.)... Plus Jesus rose from the dead after 3 days (when you die in the game). ...Also Im not sure but I think that the Abraham in the bible was supposs to be the father of the Jewish race. (I dont see a link to abe) |