Why I gave up being vegan
 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41158365

Interesting stories there.

How many of you are Vegan, or switchd back from Vegan?
Does it work, is it a satisfying life-style choice?

I don't think I could ever be vegan, I could barely be vegetarian I just love my chicken and beef too much and is one of the small treats I get while on a diet which is much better than grabbing a load of vegan Ice Cream instead.
As for the article, I do actually know quite a few vegans and 4/5 of them are extremely anxious, nervous wrecks who are very vulnerable to mood swings for little to no reason and I firmly believe it is down to their diet.

You are what you eat, and I believe the animals I ate were vegan, so must be I.

I am a gluten-free, dairy-free, starch-free, sugar-free, simple carbohydrates-free seagan (vegan+seafood). And I am an entitled arrogant bish because of that.

I <3 meat. Veganism always seemed a bit too extreme a diet to me. Moderation always has been key for me

I hate it when people don't get that we all have different bodies and some people just cant eat all foods.
But on the other hand I can't adress when vegans say their diet is the healthiest one. People have forgotten the balance in their diet. People in the Okinawan island consume mostly vegetables, but they still have meat, fish and poultry few times a week and they have long life expectancy.
But I have always eaten meat with moderation, but I always try to get my meat from smaller farms or from my friends who own animals.

Dont get me wrong, I get that everyones body processes food diffetently due to many factures, in my own family one is allergic to wheat, nut/legume, soy, egg whites and any cow dairy, but goat milk and egg yolk is fine (what sense does that make?) Anyway not easy (or inexpensive sometimes) to accomadate everyone when most of us are used to eating certain things. On the plus we can all eat chicken and my roomy raises those in our yard :). In most cases I just think at least a bit of lean meat in your diet may benefit the human body more than in a diet that excludes all forms of it all together. Imo

I didn't mean to be mean but I always talk a bit like a hothead from this topic, since It has been a close thing to some of my friends, some in good way and some have taken it too seriously and being with them is unbearable .
But I think some of us can agree that we shouldn't go to any extremes with our diet.

But are you truly... free?

I did forget to take into account that some people are vegan because they have to be for medical reasons which is fine, know what your body needs to be healthy. :)
But people do often forget people are different and sometimes just straight up have the wrong idea on what's good and bad.
For example, my partners mum, who's hardcore vegan keeps insisting that I go on a gluten free diet saying that it helps lose weight, I've tried pointing out that because neither of us have "Celiac disease" the amount of gluten I eat will chance nothing and she has no reason to be gluten free either, but I gave up trying to explain it a while ago.
Best advice for what's best for you? Talk to your doctor.

He's made only from water. Dirty mop water.

From a ecological, environmental and humanitarian standpoint, veganism is the way forward. That being said, the proletariat face significant financial barriers to accessing a vegan diet. I personally eat meat a few times a week, but I have plenty of respect for radical veganism.

Lab meat! All the taste for zero pain and (possibly) lover costs once it get's going.
People shouldn't live on plants just because "that is right", we are omnivores for a reason.

I'm definitely all for lab-grown meat. If we can produce it on a large enough, cheap enough scale, it would provide a solution for people with iron or vitamin deficiencies that don't want to eat meat produced from a living animal.

I would switch to Lab-Grown Meats if they are an affordable and delicious switch.

I have never really cared for ethics in food, anyway, because I used to eat horse a lot in my childhood. I went seagan for health reasons only. And because I hate the taste of pork and beef.

Nobody hates the taste of beef.

I hate it. Consider me special.

Unofficially, I'm red meat free. Kevin and I live on white meat (having red meat MAYBE once a quarter) and we tend to favour chicken in most of our weekly meals. The being said, we are both for lab-grown meats and will be making the switch as soon as they become more available where we live. I don't think mentally or medically I could ever make the jump to vegetarian, let alone vegan. I love the taste of chicken too much ... I've thought about it quite often, and it does cut me up inside, but for now, I'll stay the same.

Ever watched the movie Chicken Run while eating a dinner of chicken? Not a fun time.


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From a moral standpoint how does it matter what colour the meat is?

edit: That came off sounding judgmental, I didn't mean it to.

I do not care what kind of meat you grow, if it is fish, I am all for it.

No there's not. The BBC are full of shit. Take it from someone who knows. Don't use their bullshit links.

To be fair, I also hate the taste of beef. The texture's not that great either.

But still, something in the lab grown meat just sounds so wrong, like we are playing with things we shouldn't.
I still believe the natures way is better for us, but nowadays us humans have striden so far from nature that we don't have respect for it anymore, we just destroy it. But with that respect we also would appreciate the things it also gives to us.

Ahaha no shit sherlock. Our entire existence has become terribly wrong, we were playing with things we shouldn't have for centuries and you probably didn't fully realise that yet.
Of course the nature is better than us, we went to a stage that is way different and worse and we have lost all the innocence that we had before we've reached that stage.
We're a terrible species, the worst of the entire planet.
We're fucking up our planet and we're also fucking up ourselves. We destroy indeed nature and everything we have in our path and we're already destroying ourselves from a long time now.
This all should be obvious by now.

Sooo true!

By the way I eat what I find more healthy for me.
If it's gonna be meat, fine. If it's gonna be tofu stuff, fine. What's important is that I'm eating healthy food, not the one that's fucked up.

Spurgumir's Oddysee.


Sry dude just playin :p
True tho, true.

Nature is ruthless and bloodthristy. We are here to surpass it. That includes self-improvement.

Wait I thought the BBC was like the only decent source for stuff

what really? the people that covered up the shit jimmy saville and rolf harris were doing and fuck knows how many other sick fucks for all those fucking years? and who knows how many other disgusting secrets they have. that's a good source of information? or on a lighter note, do you even watch any of the BBC channels on TV? they're all shit, man. i wouldn't pay my TV license for the wank they air.

so no. no it is not. there are plenty of other sources of information out there. good ones.

Such as?

your mom. she's a pretty good source of information. you should look her up.

like, anything that isn't the BBC? lol you make it sound like the BBC is the ONLY source for information, there are tons of other shit out their especially on the internet. i'm not giving you examples because its a pretty stupid question considering how many sources are out there, there's more than a few so either you can't be arsed to look or you're just being moody with me right now. you probably read the fucking Daily Mail too.

How would I be able to differentiate between which sources are credible or not if you will not provide me with any examples?

Come on mate, THINK, instead of worryng about what I read, try to read the instructions on your meds before you start taking any.

why do you keep bringing up medication? that's twice you've done that. do you find mental illness funny? did you think i missed it the first time? i'm completely sound of mind right now but people like you are what piss me off. stop talking about fucking medication you little rat.

you want fucking examples? how about you suck my balls first and then we'll talk about examples. i'm not giving you shit while you keep making unfunny remarks about READING THE INSTRUCTIONS ON MY MEDS LUL you stupid fucking cunt.

:D

hah, you think it's funny to get personal do you?

how's the weight vhazen? and by that i mean the morbid fucking obesity. how many burger vans did you flip over and eat today? not enough? too many?

at least we know why YOU gave up being vegan lol

then all's right with the world!

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Please go back to the topic.

The members that have crossed the line have been warned/infracted/temporary banned.

:D

Well after much deliberation I have decided to stick with BBC.