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seniormeatbox 06-27-2016 11:44 AM

SoulStorm ARG - Piece 10
 
Since it seems that Ed still has one more puzzle for us, I'm making this in advance, just in case.
Delete it if its against the rules to make this thread.

Connell 06-28-2016 01:09 AM




To get the ball rolling, this is where the phrase "listen for me" first turned up I believe, in one of the frames of this video:

http://oddworld.com/soulstorm/twitching.mp4

Here's the braille post OWI put up with the word "Monday" in:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BC0c-MTM...by=oddworldinc

And then of course we have the "piece 7 source" he's referring to, is that just Ed's Tweet?

And then pieces and chat box.

Is it an order of events to do something in? Perhaps at some point (maybe Monday) we will have to listen for him as he will Tweet the final code piece and we have to input it. But then why mention the piece 7 source specifically? Thoughts?




So it's here. But what do we do with it?

Xavier 06-28-2016 02:56 AM

Wow, even with this "map" this is still absurdly opaque

I agree with your analysis, Connell, I think "piece 7 source" is indeed referring to Ed's tweet.

However I can't imagine how all those pieces will finally fit together but I'm pretty sure it will give us a code that we will need to put in the chat box at the end.

Connell 06-28-2016 03:01 AM

Yeah, I have absolutely no idea what to do with it. The difficulty level of the ARG has ramped up. It's sort of a guessing game for now, but I suppose the whole thing has been ;)

ndvr 06-28-2016 03:04 AM

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And then of course we have the "piece 7 source" he's referring to, is that just Ed's Tweet?
Uh, source of piece 7 is away.zip, isn't it?

:

pieces
That's our hard-earned 9 codes.
:

chat box
Ed's chatbox? we have to enter something to him on Soulstorm?

Xavier 06-28-2016 03:08 AM

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Uh, source of piece 7 is away.zip, isn't it?

With the password we were able to see that the task of piece 7 was "listen to the source" by extracting the file from the zip.

The funny part is that we achieved the task without seeing/knowing it. We went to the source by listening to Ed's first tweets, the fifth one containing the password.

This is why we thing the source in this case are Ed's tweets.

For the rest I think you are right.

Also note that the last code we got (bw zv tu av av zu vv zv xt) is made of 9 pieces too.

ndvr 06-28-2016 03:17 AM

No, I would disagree - from your position, "listen for me" and "piece 7 source" are both the same meaning - Ed's tweets or other methods of communication with us.
I think it's different places or sources of information, whatever.

And "listen to the source" on piece 7 image actually sounds like the task what WAS itself, like on other pieces.

Anyway, considering that first is "listen to me", we have to decode his last tweet with letters.

Xavier 06-28-2016 03:19 AM

Apparently we are being dense :p


ndvr 06-28-2016 03:23 AM

We have learned, that a lot of different people, of different age, sex, jobs, skin color, language and countries can join together to solve puzzles.
(at least I)

:

when you have it
:

what have you learned? how did you find it?
Is he speaking of same things? If same, I would thought of OWI's "Braille Monday" image.
If not, I think that "how did you find it" is how you guys found his Twitter.

EDIT: Perhaps he speaking of ciphering methods? We learnt his pattern of using Caesar cipher and hiding images and audio/video files, but that's rather common ARG method...

Connell 06-28-2016 03:23 AM

We are disappointing Ed :(

What have we learnt guys? I've learnt so much. I'm not sure what part he's referring to as "it"

Acaeris 06-28-2016 03:26 AM

Listen to the source = The source of the website

Connell 06-28-2016 03:27 AM




We "learned" to listen through the caesar cipher (that's how we got the phrase). They told us Monday through braille.

So caeser cipher, braille. But where do we apply them? If that's the correct way of thinking.

EDIT: Perhaps we need to enter those letters Ed gave us through each step, E.G put it through the steps of the map

So, shift it 19 steps down:

so bw zv tu av av zu vv zv xt

Becomes: up so mn to to sn oo so qm

Converted to braille we get:

http://i.imgur.com/qeUl1hi.png

I don't know where we'd go with that, though.

Piece 7 source was covered in UTF-8 browser encode stuff, wasn't it?




Assuming it is referring to Ed's Tweet. I'm not sure where I'm going with this but it's worth following it through I guess.

ndvr 06-28-2016 03:30 AM

:

when we told you Monday, how did we tell you?
With image, from OWI, with Braille code/language

Follow the map = another Twitter account to follow?

EDIT:
Okay, you Caesar'd it... Now to convert it to Braille's dots?...

EDIT2: AND yet again, my favorite numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42 8291™ comes to the scene - maybe we need only #8, 2, 9 and 1?

:

zv zv xt bw
Ed said:
:

seven... c seven

Xavier 06-28-2016 03:47 AM


Connell 06-28-2016 03:48 AM

Does that mean we're doing the right thing?

Xavier 06-28-2016 03:49 AM

I have no clue



I think we need to shift it up 19, not down
Or even just shift it 7.


Connell 06-28-2016 03:52 AM

I think we have to shift it 7.

EDIT: yep I agree, Xav. Strange, when the puzzle they pointed us to shifted it 19. At least we're vaguely on the right tracks. Glad Ed told us now before we got 10 steps in.

7 Steps gives us: id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea

ndvr 06-28-2016 03:53 AM

Yes, I would definitely say that up, 7!
"c seven" = Caesar seven IMO!
And that also would mean that idea IS in different ciphers, so Braille is next I guess

:

id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea
Actually, the "id" makes me think of POST-parameter, like

http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/ed?id=*some number here*
or perhaps someones account on Twitt, FB?

Connell 06-28-2016 03:55 AM

http://i.imgur.com/tb0cxuZ.png

Braille.

Xavier 06-28-2016 03:56 AM

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7 Steps gives us: id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea

Is this seven steps up or down?

Shouldn't it be "up so mn to to sn oo so qm"?

(Sorry I'm at work with pretty restricted access to the net)

EDIT: Nevermind :p




EDIT 2:

Ok here's what next:


Connell 06-28-2016 03:57 AM

That's not really how the caeser cipher works. You can shift it seven steps and that's that. It just pushes everything up the alphabet that many steps, like an infinite loop.

I got "up so mn to to sn oo so qm" by shifting it 19 spaces in the first place. But apparently Ed is trying to communicate that was wrong. But it does have the word up at the start. I'm confused.




7 steps is right.

So to recap:

Shifted 7 steps: id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea

Braille: http://i.imgur.com/tb0cxuZ.png

ndvr 06-28-2016 04:02 AM

The last Ed's tweet is # (number) on Braille.
8291? :D
:

gc gc ea id
I guess it has to be connected with Monday? Maybe there's something else on OWI img?

Xavier 06-28-2016 04:04 AM

last time we saw that was for "SPIRIT OF #1029"

:

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That's not really how the caeser cipher works. You can shift it seven steps and that's that. It just pushes everything up the alphabet that many steps, like an infinite loop.

Ah sorry about that, I tought you could shift it either up or down the alphabet.

Anyway you got it rigth :p

ndvr 06-28-2016 04:07 AM

Piece 7 source = fifth tweet? 5?

Connell 06-28-2016 04:08 AM

I think the reason the # was using in SPIRIT OF #1029 is just because that's how you signal the start of numbers in braille, because numbers use the same braille symbols as some letters. E.G 6 and F are the same braille symbol, but if you put the braille # symbol before you know that it's 6 and not F. So perhaps we need to convert "WALF" to braille?

Or the tweet.

:

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Ah sorry about that, I tought you could sift it either up or down the alphabet.

Anyway you got it rigth :p

No worries man :p this is moving pretty quick now!




So do we convert the braille to UTF-8 or something? I think he's trying to tell us to change the braille symbols into their respective UTF-8 encoded numbers.

ndvr 06-28-2016 04:12 AM

Hey I got a feeling that Monday's letter's order is important.
I mean, on Monday image, letters are going
:

MON
DAY

If I get it right. Guess we need to convert words to braille and place it in same order AND perhaps to turn them too.

Connell 06-28-2016 04:16 AM

I believe we need each smybols HEX code from this table. It seems plausible, as it gives us the same amount of characters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braill...e_ASCII_values

Just a guess but let's give it a shot.

Xavier 06-28-2016 04:17 AM

I don't see the point of going trough braille but my gut tells me we now need to read them as numbers
(letters don't go higher than 'i' which is 9)

id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea
94 73 12 83 83 72 33 73 51

Connell 06-28-2016 04:25 AM

Here's my theory tried out:

id gc ab hc hc gb cc gc ea
4944 4743 4142 4843 4843 4742 4343 4743 4541

Not sure if it's right. It seems to make it too generic.

Xavier 06-28-2016 04:26 AM

It looks like you added lots of '4' to the string of numbers I came up :p

Seriously tho, last time the '#' character was used in braille in this ARG was to tell us to read the code as numbers. (SPIRIT OF #1029)

Connell 06-28-2016 04:29 AM

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It looks like you added lots of '4' to the string of numbers I came up :p

... so turns out hex braille codes are the same as the numbers with a "4" at the start hahaha. Perhaps not the right way.

Think you've gone the right way, Xav, but I'm not sure what converting it to numbers has to do with piece 7. It does seem to be what Ed wanted us to do, though.

ndvr 06-28-2016 04:31 AM

But it still have no connection to Braille.
We have to turn it to Braille and somehow connect it with "5", cause fifth tweet is the source of piece 7.
Perhaps change to Braille and THEN yet again Caesar 5?

Xavier 06-28-2016 04:34 AM

Well I'm thinking
  1. listen for me
    Caesar shift of 7
  2. monday
    Put in Braille
  3. piece 7 source
    Use the '#' to read it as a number
  4. pieces
    TBD
  5. chat box
    TBD

So how do we put those together?


94 73 12 83 83 72 33 73 51

C4GD-RDHG-SSBR-SCRD-3STY-DDTH-WALF-XGMA-DF2F

Connell 06-28-2016 04:36 AM

I agree, Xav. But I wonder what converting it to a number had to do with piece 7, specifically the word source?

ndvr 06-28-2016 05:48 AM



EDIT: The only thing I can think of now of how to combine them, yet again ignoring "piece 7 source", is only by replacing numbers with corresponding code pieces, like

94 = DF2F (piece 9) & SCRD (piece 4)
73 = WALF (piece 7) & SSBR (piece 3) etc.

:

DF2FSCRD WALFSSBR C4GDRDHG XGMASSBR XGMASSBR WALFRDHG SSBRSSBR 3STYC4GD
There's no 6 in this numbers, by the way.

EDIT2:

Another thought - "piece 7 source" was fifth tweet, "Is anybody listening?"
Converting to Braille (only up to i=9, higher are --) this phrase gives
:

9-1--2-4--9--5-9-7
EDIT3:
Regarding "piece 7 source" - squares_codes_07.jpg source code? Like, something to look in HEX-editor?

Connell 06-28-2016 06:42 AM

Each step has required us to do whatever we did in the original step, to the string of numbers. So what did we have to do in step 7? It must follow the same idea. All we really did was remove the glitchy graphics from around the phrase "is anybody listening?" from ed's tweet and squash it into one word to be the password. I suppose that step also involved fixing those lines together to form .zip. But I don't see how we could enact any of that onto our current string of numbers. Ed has gone completely silent.

STM 06-28-2016 06:43 AM

If those | .| tweets are using morse code, they say EEI EEI.

id gc caesar ciphered with '26-19' is "pk nj"

idk...I've been out of this ARG for ages so I suppose I'm not gonna be able to help much at the last hurdle.

Connell 06-28-2016 06:46 AM

The "| .|" tweets are actually displaying the braille symbol for hash.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...NumberSign.svg

I believe they've put the lines on the side to make sure it's formatted correctly for twitter. I actually saw the Ed account put on a tweet just before it that read ". . .." on one line, but it was hastily deleted and replaced with the lines one as I think it was realised it had lost the formatting after posting :p

ndvr 06-28-2016 06:54 AM

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I suppose that step also involved fixing those lines together to form .zip.
Considering this, I can only think of returning our numbers back to the Braille and try to combine them somehow, trying to achieve some image, but IMO that's rather impossible

Connell 06-28-2016 06:57 AM

To be honest, I'm quite confused as to what the braille hash symbol has to do with "piece 7 source". I can't make the connection in my head, but it does seem to really point at converting our braille to numbers, so I think that's right. I don't really get why, or how we move on with it though.

Assuming we're done with the piece 7 source part of the map, the next part is pieces, so how do we apply the numbers to the pieces? I do sort of feel like Ed would have given us some confirmation that we'd completed the piece 7 source part of the map though, given his constant communication this morning. Maybe not.




We were in the right place. We just have to look harder. We need to use the pieces to decode the numbers. So close!

Perhaps it's to do with the order in which the pieces were completed? Throwing ideas out there